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The Sunday morning game has evolved after a couple of weeks into a modded catholic Kingdom scenario. This first post is edited to give the most recent information.

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Burgundy Sterkarm
England Jarkko
Italy Hyzenhok
Germany Patrucio
Poland Byakhiam
Hungary Solmyr

There are open positions in the game, please post in this thread if interested


Gametime: Sunday 0300 GMT (which during daylight savingtime mean Saturday 2300 EST, or 0500 CET)

Difficulty: Normal-Normal

Special rules:
1) Inheritance laws MUST be semi-sallic (or elective, only when dynasty would else die out).
2) No attacking the Pagans and Muslims until the Pope calls for crusades. New crusades may be launched against AI after old pagan/moslem lands have been converted and the player has been in a "serious" war with another player. You may declare war on infidels to take back lost christian land that was part of your realm.
3) Don't use exploits of the game engine.
4) Contribute to the group AAR.

In addition, given the nature of this game, the following are to be adhered too.

1) No stealing your vassal's sieges in pagan/muslim lands before crusades are called for. You may join in the wars, but may only defend yourself and your vassal's lands from heathen attacks.

2) You may only form alliances with Catholic realms. This rule is called the "Keep the Byzantine Empire out of the West Rule."

3) You may request vassalization from an AI-controlled realm no more than once per year.

4) You may not take all of the provinces of a PC opponent in a war to wipe them out, unless you also have claims on all their ducal and royal titles.
 
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Which kingdom will we be playing in? *votes for Germany as option 1 and Hungary as option 2*
 

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I've decided to cast my lot with us playing in Ireland. As such, here's the domain breakdown:

*Duchy of Ulster (Ulster)
**County of Tir Eoghain (Tir Eoghain)
**County of Tir Connail (Tir Connail)

*Duchy of Western Isles (Isle of Man, Western Isles)

*Duchy of Meath (Dublin)
**Bishopric of Mide (Mide)

*Duchy of Galway (Connacht)
**County of Mayo (Mayo)
**County of Sligo (Sligo)

*Duchy of Leinster (Laigin)
**County of Osraige (Osraige)

*Duchy of Munster (Desmumu)
**County of Tuadmumu (Tuadmumu)
**County of Urmumu (Umrumu)

Rule 3 should be clarified to show that you mean provinces siezed in wars against pagans. If a PC wants to fight other christians for land, they're free to take as much as they want so long as they're willing to take the BB.

You should also add the rule about if you wipe out another player, you are required to provide them with a vassal of yours to play with. If you don't have any vassals, then you are required to create one.

There are 7 playable counts spread throughout 4 Irish duchies. Players should start claiming their spots.
 

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I'm fine with Germany as well, though I would prefer us somewhere in the middle to south of the HRE, away from the pagans and the ever-present itch to destroy them all. Hungary I'm not particularly interrested in.

I stilld advocate Ireland, though, because it's a small island that bascially forces us to play with each other rather than the AI...
 

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We did try Ireland with Byakhiam last night. There is not much money in Ireland, so there is not much to build. The inter-island fights are also rather hilarious with 18 men vs 39 men armies clashing. Not to mention sieges, which *really* take ages.

Still, I thought Ireland was fun :)
 

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I claim

Tir Eoghain, if we play Ireland

Oldenburg, if we play Germany

:)
 

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Hmm.

Osraige if in Ireland.

Good old Aargau if in Germany.

If we are in Germany, I wouldn't consider Luxembourg a legal choice, since that county can become a Duchy whenever it wants. I'm just putting that out there...

Like I said, I am amused by the potential of an Irish MP game and advocate that. However, I wouldn't think it too bad an idea if we made our regular sunday morning game a german campaign. I would then play irregularly with whoever wanted to play in an Ireland MP game (probably as Dukes, since it is so poor), arranging games to suit each other's schedules and whims. The Irish game would play out sort of like how Jarkko and I intended to play the Polish side game- ie. no regular time, and schedule games via e-mail or PM whenever we can work it in.
 
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Galway-Ireland

Zeeland, Gent, or Lausitz-Germany
 
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Patrucio said:
I would then play irregularly with whoever wanted to play in an Ireland MP game (probably as Dukes, since it is so poor), arranging games to suit each other's schedules and whims. The Irish game would play out sort of like how Jarkko and I intended to play the Polish side game- ie. no regular time, and schedule games via e-mail or PM whenever we can work it in.
Sounds goos :) Count (hee-hee) me in, as Dukes in Ireland there would be much more interesting RPG aspects available.

I'd like to be Duke of Ulster for that one :)
 

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Those interested should be in the Crusaders channel at the time, ie about six hours from now. And I am off to bed now :)
 

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Jarkko Suvinen said:
Those interested should be in the Crusaders channel at the time, ie about six hours from now. And I am off to bed now :)

Still opposed to Germany, I think we should all at least be in the same area and in the east somewhere.
 

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Hyzhenhok said:
Let me guess. Poland? ;)

Actually, yes, but not just because I'm a Polish freak, because it's in a great position for Crusades and for... the Mongols! :D Having the Mongols would create such teamwork... or then again, we might all be swept away because we'd be arguing over who marries the others' daughters.
 

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Aargau, Oldenburg, Besancon, Dauphine Viennois, Zeeland, Gent, Lausitz... Iirc, these all are possible to fit in same screen with little unzooming. Except for Lausitz, all are in western part of Kingdom of Germany.

Though I would be opposed to Gent as iirc Gent is the first in line to inherit Duchy of Flanders. Others aren't so direct inheritors of duchies. I could be wrong and naturually oppose any count that will directly inherit a duchy when their father / grandfather / someotherrelative dies.

I would like to play count of Pfalz.
 

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Somebody please stay on ICQ and be aware as I will be 20-30 minutes late (watching Saving Private Ryan). Or, rehost at 0335.
 

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Since I don't usually play counts, they are actually fun to play? (I don't play them because I don't see a lot of things to do with them, apart of becoming a duke ASAP; but maybe I am wrong).

Anyway, the time of this game is utterly wrong for me (2300 in Saturday?)
 

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I'll most likely miss the session of this week. My old band has the yearly gig when we go on memorylane next weekend. It was supposed to be on Friday, but it is on Saturday (and we will have a rehersal on Friday... shrug... we did never have rehearsals in the old days, we should we now...?). As the gig will most likely also include vast amounts of beer *and* the place where our gig is is located some 180 km from here, I probably won't be fit to play on Sunday morning, and won't even probably be at home but sleeping in a shore-sauna somewhere...