Sunday game - Diplomacy Universalis 1.5

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Of the record : The fortress of Paris has once again been stormed by good old Prinz Eugen. This second war will be won, too, if nothing serious goes wrong in the next year.

I would however request.....that the GM edits a peace where France cedes Cologne to Austria and Piemonte to Venice. This I request in compensation of the 5 year early break of vassalage.

The warscore at present is + 70 percent. Thus these provinces can easily be demanded.

I think you are overdemanding here. The fact that you can stabhit is not even close to an edit of the peace.

 

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Hahaha :rofl: smn, that is a lovely story I was almost afraid you didn't have fun while we were playing EU2

Same here Nice AAR.

 

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I would however request.....that the GM edits a peace where France cedes Cologne to Austria and Piemonte to Venice. This I request in compensation of the 5 year early break of vassalage.

My idea of a compensation would be re-editing france to vassalship. Then she's longer vassal than she would originally be.

And I would like to see if we can do something more with forcing someone to vassalship. Like, a forced vassal is not allowed to dow the allies of the overlord...

 

[Tonioz]

nice story, smn
did you make pics ? :rofl:

 

[smn_]

nice story, smn
did you make pics ? :rofl:

Darn, didn't. I guess I could snap a couple of pics of the cars, and the snow bank and make it a proper AAR. If FAL gives me the 2500 ducats

 

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I propose we drop BRA, saves us another player spot.

Thoughts?

 

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Darn, didn't. I guess I could snap a couple of pics of the cars, and the snow bank and make it a proper AAR. If FAL gives me the 2500 ducats

Sure, I'll do that!

 

[Tonioz]

My idea of a compensation would be re-editing france to vassalship. Then she's longer vassal than she would originally be.

That means Venice will fight France alone ? :rofl:

Well, those two years alone vs Villars and Karl sounded to be total disaster, but finally i manage to have Liguria and +37WS.

Venice killed for this session following french leaders (original stats):
Dugay Trouin admiral 5-3-4
Berwick general 4-3-3
Boufflers general 3-2-3-1

i guess Mulli missed them at the end

 

[Tonioz]

I propose we drop BRA, saves us another player spot.

Thoughts?

BRA can be played very well. I`m quite sure Austria will finish Sweden and grabbing those provs, which BRA lost. Then Prussia has nice leadership to knock Sweden down.

 

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Dugay Trouin admiral 5-3-4
Berwick general 4-3-3
Boufflers general 3-2-3-1

i guess Mulli missed them at the end

Err, i never had them . Killed while i was eating?

EDIT: Wait, i think i had Berwick actually. He never fought a battle though since he lived before the good ones were randomized.

 

[Ampoliros]

My idea of a compensation would be re-editing france to vassalship. Then she's longer vassal than she would originally be.

And I would like to see if we can do something more with forcing someone to vassalship. Like, a forced vassal is not allowed to dow the allies of the overlord...

Aye....but what about the current war then?
We have most clearly won the war against France...
Thus the breaking of a vasallage + negative WS in the current war....should together equal out to this edited peace.

I will not demand this of course, but I would like to see a fair settlement of this technical aspect. After all it was Mulliman´s mistake. The rules clearly state that he has to stay a vasall for 10 years. So if he breaks this rule knowingly or unknowingly it is still his mistake.

 

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Aye....but what about the current war then?
We have most clearly won the war against France...
Thus the breaking of a vasallage + negative WS in the current war....should together equal out to this edited peace.

I will not demand this of course, but I would like to see a fair settlement of this technical aspect. After all it was Mulliman´s mistake. The rules clearly state that he has to stay a vasall for 10 years. So if he breaks this rule knowingly or unknowingly it is still his mistake.

Clearly and clearly, i wouldnt really discount anything. OE is about to join and France still has alot to do. Who knows, maybe PE also dies randomly?

 

[Tonioz]

Err, i never had them . Killed while i was eating?

EDIT: Wait, i think i had Berwick actually. He never fought a battle though since he lived before the good ones were randomized.

i guess all except Boufflers were under smn rule. Though maybe he was too.

Berwick was sent with 1K to Dauphine to let other guy leads army, and when i took Provence, i immediatly caught him without punishment

 

[Ampoliros]

BRA can be played very well. I`m quite sure Austria will finish Sweden and grabbing those provs, which BRA lost. Then Prussia has nice leadership to knock Sweden down.

Aye! Indeed, if I stay in Austria (which I of course desperately hope ) my demands from Sweden will be given to Prussia.

In effect I am fighting this war against swedish aggression in northern germany....for the direct benefit of Prussia!

 

[Tonioz]

Clearly and clearly, i wouldnt really discount anything. OE is about to join and France still has alot to do. Who knows, maybe PE also dies randomly?

OE joining is bad idea. They will be easily kicked down.

FAL, please edit back disbanded Venice galleys, i suddenly pressed "D" and enter, being under other windows :rofl:

During session i pressed "D" about 3 times and once almost pressed enter

 

[Ampoliros]

Clearly and clearly, i wouldnt really discount anything. OE is about to join and France still has alot to do. Who knows, maybe PE also dies randomly?

Look Mulliman. I do not care about opinions or some vague hope by you that the war could still be turned. The fact is that you broke a rule and there has to be some kind of compensation for this.

And all of my wareffort would have been invane if France is simply revasallized.

Still, if this has to be done.....I demand that France at least cedes Piemonte to our noble ally, Venice.
Because many brave venetian soldiers have fought and died in this war too!

And surely I can demand this with a massively plus warscore...

 

[Tonioz]

France has no future in the war, since even average leaders lost. Sweden lost in 1720 last leadership too and they have dark period.

 

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Darn, didn't. I guess I could snap a couple of pics of the cars, and the snow bank and make it a proper AAR. If FAL gives me the 2500 ducats

I'll give you 5 million for it. You know I can

 

[Tonioz]

http://www.europa2.ru/cgi-bin/leagu...n=108b&countries=FRA&sy=1720&fy=1735&lang=eng

Here are actual leaders of France in 1720-1735
Villars 4-5-5-1
Vendфme 4-3-4
Berwick 4-3-3
are died

3-2-2 shit left only. On the place of France i would cede provinces to get nap until 1740 and de Saxe.

 

[Tonioz]

I'll give you 5 million for it. You know I can

Ozzeh, don`t own my function, i edited them to FAL