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Red could not connect.

IMO the rule should be that whenever a player enters a game and it was along time since he played or he is a newbie, a test should be made some time before the real start to ensure that the player can connect.

I do not know how many times I have seen problems like this. Sometimes they manage to connect after a delay that may be anything from 10 minutes to 1 hour, sometimes they cannot connect at all. Either way it is bad, really bad. I do not think we started until around 19.30.

A new rule needed FAL: Players who have not played in the community for the last (say 3) months, subs as well as perms, must establish as early as possible before start that they can connect.
 
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Daniel A said:
Red could not connect.

IMO the rule should be that whenever a player enters a game and it was along time since he played or he is a newbie, a test should be made some time before the real start to ensure that the player can connect.

I do not know how many times I have seen problems like this. Sometimes they manage to connect after a delay that may be anything from 10 minutes to 1 hour, sometimes they cannot connect at all. Either way it is bad, really bad. I do not think we started until around 19.30.

A new rule needed FAL: Players who have not played in the community for the last (say 3) months, subs as well as perms, must establish as early as possible before start that they can connect.

I would call that the responsibility of the players themselves, and I haven't seen this problem before by veterans.

Even Slargos managed to connect when he rejoined the community after three months of inactivity ;)
 

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IMO the rule should be that whenever a player enters a game and it was along time since he played or he is a newbie, a test should be made some time before the real start to ensure that the player can connect.
Making it a rule would be a bit silly in my opinion, but I think you have a point. This should really be the usual practise that is always done.
 

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Your refuting the NAP was a nice surprise for me, but really, it was an unrequested bonus.

I suppose this icq conversation doesn`t hit your privacy feelings ?
Well, i made refucal of NAP with Sultan from following

Tonio wrote:
okay, we have options
- offer Sultan nap with both our countries
- no nap to him at all, and we are ready to defend our lands together (most probably OE will dow together with Turenne then after achieving LT18 and infra5)

Smn wrote:
No NAP I would say. I feel rather confident in being able to fight the Sultan

Tonio wrote:
ok, i will inform Sultan about our unity

Smn wrote:
Great. May God help us in our mission!
 
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Roster for the sixth session:
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  1. France - Cheech
  2. Austria - Tonio
  3. Spain - Ozzeh
  4. Portugal - RedPhoenix
  5. England - Fredrik
  6. The Ottoman Empire - Robertus
  7. Russia - Eskimo
  8. Sweden - FAL
  9. Venice - Smn
  10. Brandenburg - PJL
  11. The Netherlands - Wonko

Can I use the above to roll for new countries?
 

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After conversation with Netherlands, Austria lifts whole misunderstanding about possible funding against our previous talks. We trust in words of Old Archduke Wonko :D
 

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FAL said:
Roster for the sixth session:
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  1. France - Cheech
  2. Austria - Tonio
  3. Spain - Ozzeh
  4. Portugal - RedPhoenix
  5. England - Fredrik
  6. The Ottoman Empire - Robertus
  7. Russia - Eskimo
  8. Sweden - FAL
  9. Venice - Smn
  10. Brandenburg - PJL
  11. The Netherlands - Wonko

Can I use the above to roll for new countries?

shoot. I believe it should be "RedPhoenix/other sub" though, since we don`t know Red can fix his connection.
 
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smn said:
Making it a rule would be a bit silly in my opinion, but I think you have a point. This should really be the usual practise that is always done.

Yes smn, it should be the usual practice. But as you may be aware it is not and it causes problems now and again.

When you get older you will understand that there is a lot of foolish/sloppy/careless individuals walking around as free citizens :rolleyes: and you, who know better than them, must therefore enforce your will upon them. Not always an easy task ;)

If we had had this rule then FAL, or whoever it was who made a deal with Red, would perhaps have remembered the rule and then done exactly this test. That would have been nice for us who sat there and waited for 25-30 minutes at our computers. Do you not agree?

In case you, as some other, get high blood pressure every time Daniel utters the word "rule", then you may swap it for "recommendation". :D
 

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I suppose this icq conversation doesn`t hit your privacy feelings ?

Not at all.

And besides, no need for an argument for I know I did wrong for not dowing the Sultan..

Tonioz said:
- offer Sultan nap with both our countries
- no nap to him at all, and we are ready to defend our lands together (most probably OE will dow together with Turenne then after achieving LT18 and infra5)

Smn wrote:
No NAP I would say. I feel rather confident in being able to fight the Sultan

Tonio wrote:
ok, i will inform Sultan about our unity

Smn wrote:
Great. May God help us in our mission!

I think it can be read from the lines above that I intended to pick a fight alone with the turk?
 
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smn,

Perhaps the word "us" in

"May God help us in our mission"

was used by you as pluralis majestatis rather than a pronoun used to signify the unity between AUS and VEN.

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For this legal assistance I charge you 100 ducats the next time we play ;)
 

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I think it can be read from the lines above that I intended to pick a fight alone with the turk?

absolutely correct, you posted this desire. But even after that i didn`t think you wish NAP between Austria and OE
 

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smn said:
Should you play a poorer country than me you will get it :D

Wow...that was really kind of you...
 

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BTW tonio you comment that breaking truce would be gamey reminds me very much of the argument in thursdays game. Im suprised daniel hasnt jumped to my defence asking how dare you accuse me of being gamey when there is no rule against it. I suppose he is unable to give a 24hr ultimatum though as hes not in this game officially :)
 
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cheech said:
BTW tonio you comment that breaking truce would be gamey reminds me very much of the argument in thursdays game. Im suprised daniel hasnt jumped to my defence asking how dare you accuse me of being gamey when there is no rule against it. I suppose he is unable to give a 24hr ultimatum though as hes not in this game officially :)

Breaking truces is not gamey, though it can be an annoying way to reset warscores.
 

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The Supreme Stadhoulder of the United Provinces of the Netherlands wishes to express his severe displeasure at the present illegal and unlawful strangulation of global trade by the iberian papist rapists. This Status Quo, if it abides, will most certainly not be left unchallanged. In this spirit we call upon all decent and honourbound empires to unite in the just cause, to join in on the glorious crusade and to rid the oceans of this merciless menace once and for all! Avast ye soldiers, the struggle continues!

After the relentless and unjustified Dutch attack on Portuguese colonies and cities, it is no less than reasonable that the Dutch should prove themselves friendly before being allowed to trade in our CoTs again. After all, they were allowed full free trade before the war. There was no reason at all for this agression.
 

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Breaking truces is not gamey

tut tut fal you need to insert 'IMO' before statements like this.