I second the Genoa recommendation. This tag if often overlooked as they have no achievement to their name, but they have a lot of flavour mission and events and unique starting position.
Suggestions for a republic to play?
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here is the cheese you can use 
1)start as burgundy(Inheritence cant fire for player)
2)Conquer france
3)Form netherlands
doing this prevents france taking your france terrority lands away from you turning you into a massive orange naval/colonial/trade power house
also if england is protestant try to squeeze a union with him there is an event for that you need royal marriage with him + good relations to trigger
1)start as burgundy(Inheritence cant fire for player)
2)Conquer france
3)Form netherlands
doing this prevents france taking your france terrority lands away from you turning you into a massive orange naval/colonial/trade power house
also if england is protestant try to squeeze a union with him there is an event for that
you need royal marriage with him + good relations to trigger
Going even further, you can inherit Burgundy as one of their former subjects.
Florence is my personal favorite. They have a lovely color, a solid idea set, and can create Italy
Either that or ‘Murica. Especially since they just got their unique governments back
Either that or ‘Murica. Especially since they just got their unique governments back
Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone!
I did a quick test run as Florence last night. Seemed like everyone else was getting strong alliances much easier than I was able to, made expansion rather difficult. Is it basically a foregone conclusion that the Pope will rival you right off the bat? It's a pity, because that invalidates my + Papal Influence tradition.
I did a quick test run as Florence last night. Seemed like everyone else was getting strong alliances much easier than I was able to, made expansion rather difficult. Is it basically a foregone conclusion that the Pope will rival you right off the bat? It's a pity, because that invalidates my + Papal Influence tradition.
it isn't always guaranteed to happen, but it happens really often. it also means you're a prime target for excommunication, but of course you get elections every four years so it isn't as crippling as when a monarch is ex'd.
Ragusa into Croatia. You have small neighbours to eat at the start, middling powers a little further away to eat at the middle, and a few great powers next door to eat at the end.
Plus an amusing achievement
Plus an amusing achievement
OP wants to play a republic, with an interesting start and/or unique events. Culture shifting as Hungary wouldn't be much different from just playing as Hungary.
For Ragusa, forming Croatia serves as an immediate goal they can pursue, and gives a sense of your nation evolving as it expands.
I was mostly talking about the Krabater achievement.
Also, you can become a Noble Republic if you let Nobles take over IIRC
Also, you can become a Noble Republic if you let Nobles take over IIRC
I was planning on just (though unfortunately it never fired) that in a previous abandoned run since I figured there'd be no real limitations for it. Hell, if Milan got it in my latest attempt, there's no reason why Holland shouldn't be able to get it.
Yeah, both of those things made me abandon Florence pretty quickly despite their excellent ideas. There's nobody to eat quickly because the alliances are always strong enough to stop you in your tracks, and the Pope is indeed very likely to rival you. At least you start with a good ruler so you don't have to rush that much, but it's not exactly a mere matter of waiting when you have to deal with big alliance triangles (especially involving the Pope) or Aragon allying Lucca.
Switch to Protestant in the reformation. Problem solved. You want the popes land anyway.
It's not too hard to expand. Expansion is a painstaking at first because of the intertwining alliances, but that is what makes it fun. Expansion will become much easier. Soon you will have the genoa, venice and Tunis trade nodes and be the top income in the world. I had 60 provinces and was top income - higher than ming.
BTW - during my golden age and after I had humanist I was getting ideas for awhile at 280 MP. I ripped through my 4th group in nothing flat.