[Suggestion] Unique flags (ala Victoria) for each government type

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What about Germany or the USSR? if the political game is more advanced then if it is possible to change the regimes of these countries a new flag is pretty much necessary. Cant really see a communist or democratic Germany using a swastika (or the flag that will be used for Germany), same for the USSR and a few other states.
 

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New flags exist in HoI3 for Nationalist Spain and the Italian Social Republic. How much Paradox needs to go into creating new flags depends on how far they are going to go in creating tags for new governments after any faction falls. Even at this early date, a dynamic postwar political world order seems like a post-release DLC.

The evolution of flags does very often follow the forceful overthrow of government. The flags of the DDR (E. Germany) and FDR (W. Germany) are the clearest example of how flags change in this way.
Hungary is another:
1919-1946
Flag_of_Hungary_%281915-1918%2C_1919-1946%3B_3-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg

1946-49
Flag_of_Hungary_%281946-1949%2C_1956-1957%29.svg
 
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Well Germany, USSR, Spain, Italy Hungary etc. really can't change their government type without changing their flags. Unless we want to see a Socialist Germany with an Iron Cross in its flag.
 

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New flags exist in HoI3 for Nationalist Spain and the Italian Social Republic. How much Paradox needs to go into creating new flags depends on how far they are going to go in creating tags for new governments after any faction falls. Even at this early date, a dynamic postwar political world order seems like a post-release DLC.

The evolution of flags does very often follow the forceful overthrow of government. The flags of the DDR (E. Germany) and FDR (W. Germany) are the clearest example of how flags change in this way.
Hungary is another:
1919-1946
Flag_of_Hungary_%281915-1918%2C_1919-1946%3B_3-2_aspect_ratio%29.svg

1946-49
Flag_of_Hungary_%281946-1949%2C_1956-1957%29.svg

No wonder they changed the flag, the top cross was all wonky! :eek:hmy:
 

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What about Germany or the USSR? if the political game is more advanced then if it is possible to change the regimes of these countries a new flag is pretty much necessary. Cant really see a communist or democratic Germany using a swastika (or the flag that will be used for Germany), same for the USSR and a few other states.
USSR would have a whole other tag. I agree on Germany though.
 

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i'd prefer to see flag changes be put into the game at least as part of an early DLC. or as its own standalone DLC. considering how much more advanced looking the 4th generation games like EU4 and CK2 seem to be than their predecessors just at face value, it'd be nice to see HOI 4 push the graphical boundaries even further. along with much more.
 

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USSR would have a whole other tag. I agree on Germany though.

ditto.

when it comes to nations fundamentally based around their ideology like Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, Spain (by technicality), Communist China/PRC, and USA, they should have separate tags (historical/ahistorical) based on the respective ideologies. few other nations can be held to the same standards, and should just have different flags.
 

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In a game which is essentially about war between ideologies; liberalism, communism and fascism
I can't resist being pedantic... I don't know that I would define liberalism as the defining characteristic of the allies, since true libralism as an ideology never really got off the ground. Governments like discussing freedom more than they like granting it. The allies (or at least USA, UK and France) were democratic but not really liberal.
I do agree with the points that the game is a sandbox so players should be able to determine the direction of their own nation and that unique flags would be cool.
 

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I can't resist being pedantic... I don't know that I would define liberalism as the defining characteristic of the allies, since true libralism as an ideology never really got off the ground. Governments like discussing freedom more than they like granting it. The allies (or at least USA, UK and France) were democratic but not really liberal.

While I don't know how you personally define liberalism, I sort of understand the peculiar place you're coming from. However if you took at the relative amount of freedom and equality in the Western Democracies in comparison to the 3rd Reich and USSR, you would really have to twist the meaning of the term "true liberalism" beyond all recognition to say that the USA was not very much more liberal than the 3rd Reich.

That is to say I recognize that the US, UK or any nation are not anarcho-liberal utopias, I pragmatically recognize that free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property are a defining difference between the Allies versus the Axis/Comintern.
 
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