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Would be great to have a test mode where for example:

- phase deployment limitations were removed
- infinite moneys
- a nice firing range test map
- you could control units on RED and BLUE
- access to deploy all units in the game​


or atleast some combination of these
 

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I am personally against people being able to practice like this. Practicing like this makes it easier for clans to develop exploits.
 

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I am personally against people being able to practice like this. Practising like this makes it easier for clans to develop exploits.
You mean they can't make an empty lobby and do it that way? Or have an in house lobby and do stuff? We did it in wargame all the time to test penetration, morale and map measurements.
 

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That is a circular argument. Give everybody guns because criminals will get them anyways kinda argument.
 

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Having a way for the average player to understand the game mechanics as well as clan members who experiment for hours a day is definitely the same as that.
 

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I like the idea... would be interesting to see where the ideal building to occupy were considering when the game starts I'm all over the place and focusing on everything else!
 

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Why not just play the game? Coop VS AI.... skirmish etc.
 

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"I don't want this so I feel the need to make up terrible reasons it shouldn't be in the game".

Why not just say you have no interest in it and move on.

Given Wargame, and how the AI seems to have gotten significantly (unplayably) worse from ALB to RD, I'm not holding my breath on having worthwhile AI in this game and I too would like a "control both sides" mode. I'd like it more for RD but that's a separate issue.
 

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What ever happened to constructive debate? Honestly. Demonising me because you do not like my view point or my points. Not nice.
If the AI is that bad then it is perfect as a test mode right?
 
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What ever happened to constructive debate? Honestly. Demonising me because you do not like my view point or my points. Not nice.
Stop trying to play the victim card, do you even know what demonizing means? Literally all this sentence is is trying to make yourself out to be a victim when there was 0 victimization going on. Grow up.

Also, there is no constructive debate here, some people want it and other people don't. What is the debate?

If the AI is that bad then it is perfect as a test mode right?
I don't even know how you think this makes sense. I cannot wrap my head around the logic you used for this statement.
 

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I am personally against people being able to practice like this. Practicing like this makes it easier for clans to develop exploits.
Perhaps. It also makes it far easier to learn the game, and to experiment with various kinds of units, weapons, and techniques.

The War Thunder test map was nice, but I wish I was also able to just load up any map and "explore" it. Whenever I do so ingame I feel like I'm doing a disservice to my team.

Why not just play the game? Coop VS AI.... skirmish etc.
I dislike this idea. Makes it easier for clans to develop exploits.
 

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Given Wargame, and how the AI seems to have gotten significantly (unplayably) worse from ALB to RD, I'm not holding my breath on having worthwhile AI in this game

FWIW the reason the AI got worse from ALB to RD was because they went from having a limited selection of premade decks to allowing the AI to use custom decks. There is no such shift between RD and SD and the AI seems to have actually had significant improvements.

Agreed with this idea though, particularly because it would be useful for mod testing (it's easy enough for modders to change it anyway, just removes an additional step)
 

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I am personally against people being able to practice like this. Practicing like this makes it easier for clans to develop exploits.
Indeed, and that makes it an argument for OP's proposal.
The faster exploits and cheese are discovered, the more they'll publicized, the quicker they'll be fixed (if possible). And the faster a counter can be devised, of course.
The current mechanics of SD nips in the bud a lot of the usual Wargame issues, but I'm certain some exploit will be found sooner rather than later. Keeping them under wraps won't make them disappear, on the contrary the most extreme transparency will help a lot the devs to react and adapt the game.