Suggestion for colonization and the 50% autonomy floor

[TheDarkMaster]

Yeah but they broke little nation, they cant colonise because they dont have benefits. After if you compare, europe and asia are much more rich in term of manpower and tax, especially manpower !
i will try to find a way to go through this floor of 50 %, its a game breaker for me. Especially when you saw that a colonial nation could reach 0% and not a native american, its not balanced.

Well, i think i can't convince you to change anything :/ well good work for your mod

Well, look at it like this, there is no way to get around the 50% floor for at least 50-100 years. That's the mindset of the new patch. However, you can make suggestions on whether or not the 85% starting level I set is too high, or if the small nation bonus to autonomy reduction I added isn't high enough.

 

[tom025]

85% starting level is too much indeed. After if you say, if during 50-100 years the LA dont go down, what are the benefits for colonization ?? (just think, 2 ducats per month during 10 years for a terrain with no modifier for create a colony) and after you get only 50 % of LA, its just ridiculous.

For example if you set the modifier of +0.05 each month at the early beginning of the creation of the colony, well maybe it could be good, but put a modifier that gave +0.10 LA each month is too high.

For me in my opinion, your modifiers are too high, we still won nothing about colonization

 

[TheDarkMaster]

85% starting level is too much indeed. After if you say, if during 50-100 years the LA dont go down, what are the benefits for colonization ?? (just think, 2 ducats per month during 10 years for a terrain with no modifier for create a colony) and after you get only 50 % of LA, its just ridiculous.

For example if you set the modifier of +0.05 each month at the early beginning of the creation of the colony, well maybe it could be good, but put a modifier that gave +0.10 LA each month is too high.

For me in my opinion, your modifiers are too high, we still won nothing about colonization

I would like to point out that 50% autonomy reduces the tax and production income of a province by 50%, but the trade value by 25%. If your entire country has a boost to tax, production, or trade, this value is not affected by the autonomy mechanics. So a production efficiency of 20% (on the economic screen) means a province with 100% autonomy will still produce 20% production income.

As for the mod, do you think changing it to starting at 60% autonomy would be a bit fairer? You'll still have no decrease in autonomy for the first 15 years, and after that it will only go down by 0.05 while at peace, until 100 years have passed. Odds are, this simply means that the province will be half as profitable as other provinces for about 100 years, unless you have a more advanced government type, or are a very small nation.

 

[tom025]

its better but its not enough :/

Did you have ever tried to play as a native ? (aztec or a very minor one like sioux or comanche)

 

[finkellll]

Isn't the floor somewhere in defines.lua? I thought they put it front and center for people that want provinces to start at 50% and drop to 0.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

its better but its not enough :/

Did you have ever tried to play as a native ? (aztec or a very minor one like sioux or comanche)

I played as the Incas in my last game. The colonization nerf didn't hurt that bad, but it was annoying.

I'm uploading a new version of the mod to try out. This time, autonomy starts at 50% when a colony completes, and the small nation bonus has been upped to -0.2 per month.

 

[TheDarkMaster]

Okay, new version is up now. See the first post for more info.

 

[tom025]

ok i will try it out, as soon as possible.
Do you know some command for the console for won diplo and admnistrative monrch power ? (for won time, i dont want to wait 2hours for monarch power ..)

PS: Thanks for the update and for be aware man

 

[Junuxx]

Haven't read the whole discussion, but here's an idea I had. What if buildings decreased the LA floor? Say, -0.05 for each building. That would incentivize players to develop the infrastructure in their same-continent colonies and gradually improve those provinces profitability.

 

[tom025]

Good idea i admit, but only asian and maybe african will benefits from this. There is no benefits from natives

Ps: I admit I am "the defenders of Natives"

 

[TheDarkMaster]

ok i will try it out, as soon as possible.
Do you know some command for the console for won diplo and admnistrative monrch power ? (for won time, i dont want to wait 2hours for monarch power ..)

PS: Thanks for the update and for be aware man

dip x
adm x
mil x

x = number of free points to gain.

Haven't read the whole discussion, but here's an idea I had. What if buildings decreased the LA floor? Say, -0.05 for each building. That would incentivize players to develop the infrastructure in their same-continent colonies and gradually improve those provinces profitability.

A variable LA floor is impossible to mod right now. It is a fixed value that cannot be changed in game, so if you want to be able to get down to 0 eventually, you have to have the floor be 0.

 

[tom025]

ok thanks for the command ...

I will try it out early tommorow for gave you an answer.

EDit: I just try it, Does its possible to reduce the 2 modfiers by the new colony from +0.05 LA to +0.04 LA ?
Just for say, if I'm at peace I won -0.02 LA each month, if you do that, the mod will be perfect at my eyes.

And the little colony modifier is really helpfull and needed, a big thanks for that.

So if you could put +0.04 at each new colony instead of +0.05 it will be perfect

Edit 2: In fact, it's perfect like this, good job man ! you have all my respect for this