Suggestion: allow reduction of war exhaustion below 2 and inflation below 2%

[bleakie]

At times, I want to press the "reduce war exhaustion" button, but I cannot because the current war exhaustion is 1.8x. It can push up coring cost and coring time by 5%, which is quite significant. It is quite paradoxical to have me want to push the war exhaustion up to 2 so that I can press the button and save some AMP when coring. I hope that Paradox can consider allowing players to use DMP to reduce war exhaustion even if it is below 2, with full DMP cost of course. Not utilizing the full potential of the choice (reducing war exhaustion by less than 2) sounds a reasonable trade-off.

I am also mentioning inflation, because it is under very similar circumstances.

 

[Zander]

I've often have the same desire, and I agree as long as the cost wasn't reduced it seems completely reasonable.

 

[StatikShocker]

I sometimes draw out a war a little longer if WE is like 1.9, so I can reduce it. drawing down 1.9 war exhaustion without innovative, can really be a bother to your diploannexations and revolt risk, as well as coring cost. something I would never mind spending the DIP for even at full cost.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

+1. Better strategy cost/tradeoff options are always a plus.

 

[josh127]

+1 yes, at the same cost as it normally would be to reduce by 2.

It is quite paradoxical to have me want to push the war exhaustion up to 2 so that I can press the button and save some AMP when coring.

Well, that is the name of the company after all.

 

[bleakie]

Bump. Seeing the pattern of the responses, I think this is appropriate.

 

[Kraxis]

+1
The cost would be that you spend MP in an ineffective way. I think that is plenty of a price to pay.

 

[AndrewT]

Bump. Seeing the pattern of the responses, I think this is appropriate.

Posting here in the general forum does not bring your suggestion to anyone official's attention. You need to post a Enhancement request thread in Bug Reports.

 

[sinkingmist]

Posting here in the general forum does not bring your suggestion to anyone official's attention. You need to post a Enhancement request thread in Bug Reports.

Wait, what?
The official channel for posting suggestions is through the Bug Reports forum!?

 

[bleakie]

Wait, what?
The official channel for posting suggestions is through the Bug Reports forum!?

I want to ask the same question. Suggestion threads do not seem to fit into the category of "Bug reports".

 

[Red John]

Well when you think about it, it kinda makes sense. It's not like Paradox employees whom browse the forum check every single thread in the main forum, that'd be too tedious.

 

[lordgoof]

I'd say all threads would get a cursory glance by someone especially those with a logical accurate and interesting title.

Also +1

 

[Holland989]

I really hope they implement this, not being able to reduce 1.99 inflation makes me quite reluctant

I'm in favour +1

 

[Mann42]

Posting here in the general forum does not bring your suggestion to anyone official's attention. You need to post a Enhancement request thread in Bug Reports.

This sounds like a really bad idea, unless Paradox wants its Bug Report forums to become overrun with every random suggestion or balance rant to the detriment of their ability to properly curate actual bug reports.

At times, I want to press the "reduce war exhaustion" button, but I cannot because the current war exhaustion is 1.8x. It can push up coring cost and coring time by 5%, which is quite significant. It is quite paradoxical to have me want to push the war exhaustion up to 2 so that I can press the button and save some AMP when coring. I hope that Paradox can consider allowing players to use DMP to reduce war exhaustion even if it is below 2, with full DMP cost of course. Not utilizing the full potential of the choice (reducing war exhaustion by less than 2) sounds a reasonable trade-off.

I am also mentioning inflation, because it is under very similar circumstances.

I like this idea. I've been running with a mod that allows 1 point of WE or Inflation at a time (instead of 2), but I also increase the overall cost to 40 per point ( 80 for 2 instead of the current 75 - easier to divide). However, I like the idea of spending the full amount to reduce *up to* 2 if I'm trying to burn that last little bit.

 

[AndrewT]

Wait, what?
The official channel for posting suggestions is through the Bug Reports forum!?

Yes.

I want to ask the same question. Suggestion threads do not seem to fit into the category of "Bug reports".

This sounds like a really bad idea, unless Paradox wants its Bug Report forums to become overrun with every random suggestion or balance rant to the detriment of their ability to properly curate actual bug reports.

Well, that's the way it is. Internally we use the same tool to log bugs and enhancement requests, and that's the way it's been with any software project I've ever been involved in over 30+ years in the business.

We would expect any such request to be at least as carefully described and backed-up as a bug report.

 

[Jorlem]

Yes.



Well, that's the way it is. Internally we use the same tool to log bugs and enhancement requests, and that's the way it's been with any software project I've ever been involved in over 30+ years in the business.

We would expect any such request to be at least as carefully described and backed-up as a bug report.

This should really be stated somewhere, as I had no idea that this was the case. I can't find it mentioned in the stickied threads in the EUIV or CK2 bug report forums, and none of the stickied threads on the main pages seem like they'd be where this would be mentioned.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Yes.



Well, that's the way it is. Internally we use the same tool to log bugs and enhancement requests, and that's the way it's been with any software project I've ever been involved in over 30+ years in the business.

We would expect any such request to be at least as carefully described and backed-up as a bug report.

Perhaps at least a small amendment to the subforum title would make it a little more clear on the complete purpose of that subforum.

 

[Red John]

Perhaps at least a small amendment to the subforum title would make it a little more clear on the complete purpose of that subforum.

Or an entirely different sub-forum together, so that bug reports don't get pushed all the way down to page 934, where nobody ever sees them.

 

[Mann42]

Or an entirely different sub-forum together, so that bug reports don't get pushed all the way down to page 934, where nobody ever sees them.

Yeah, if this were pushed as the standard, I anticipate the bug reports forum will quickly become irrelevant and useless to the developers as suggestions overrun actual bug reports.

Yes.

Well, that's the way it is. Internally we use the same tool to log bugs and enhancement requests, and that's the way it's been with any software project I've ever been involved in over 30+ years in the business.

We would expect any such request to be at least as carefully described and backed-up as a bug report.

You use a forum to make and track bug reports internally? That sounds horribly inefficient, but it perfectly explains why Paradox games are so horrifically buggy. You should have your producers look into some tracking software - even with a small team, it makes a huge difference.

It also concerns me that we're expected to post in 'bug reports' in order to get "anyone official's attention." If Paradox isn't reading any of their forums except for bug reports, then why are we posting anywhere but there? Especially when I know the developers do read threads in general and comment on suggestion/feedback posts. You might want to avoid giving the impression that Paradox doesn't read or care about feedback in general discussion, or you're simply going to drive posts to the 'new' place you claim the devs are paying attention to.

I've been in the games industry for almost 20 years, and most developers understand their fans enough and the fickle nature of their requests to want to keep actual, factual bug reports from hypothetical suggestions, regardless of how good or well written they are. The few times I've seen companies direct fans to the bug forums for suggestions, they quickly reverse course when they realize they've opened the floodgates and transformed their bug reports forum into 'general discussion part 2'.

But if this is Paradox's official policy, then 1) Good luck enforcing it and 2) Good luck with the fallout and cleanup! It will certainly be entertaining for those of us watching.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Or an entirely different sub-forum together, so that bug reports don't get pushed all the way down to page 934, where nobody ever sees them.

I don't agree with the setup either, but if they're going to use it this way it should at least be clear. I always thought the suggestions posted there were silly, but it turns out that was the intended practice. That's surprising despite that I have 3000+ posts here, and judging by the reaction of members of the community who have been here even longer, I'm not alone.