Suggestion: Add decrase local autonomy idea to administration idea group

[Petrucci]

Suggestion: Add decrease local autonomy idea to administration idea group

Just like title says, I think admin idea group could use decreasing LA idea. Arguments are a)game play, we need something to help us decrease it faster then -0,1 per Month, especially when we are in constant wars
b) Logic: Administration was created so people from upper class on hierarchy pyramid could manage people on lower class more efficiently.

Suggestion is to add it instead of +1 possible advisor or as bonus when whole administration ideas are finished. It should decrease local autonomy between 0,03 and 0,1 per month ,preferably 0,05.

 

[Freudia]

a)game play, we need something to help us decrease it faster then -0,01 per Month.

More advanced forms of government have bonus LA reductions.

It should decrease local autonomy between 0,01 and 0,05 per month ,preferably 0,03.

.3 is on par with endgame government types, so probably too strong.

 

[Zwirbaum]

As soon as you grab the first government which reduces local autonomy on monthly basis (in case of monarchies - Administrative, and all republics from what I saw) autonomy is no longer a problem. (It goes down really fast) (Up to 4,8% per year in case of best autonomy reduction government types + peace). It allows to go from 100% to 0% in less than 21 years.

 

[Alerias]

He asked for .03 not .3. Personally I think a .05 idea should exist somewhere.

 

[TheDanish]

I agree, but Administrative is already one of the best idea groups in the game because of reduced core creation cost, reduced ADM tech cost, and merc bonuses. Either nerf Adm or put it somewhere else.

 

[Azikiel]

I agree adm ideas should get something new, they kinda suck right now imho.

 

[Freudia]

He asked for .03 not .3. Personally I think a .05 idea should exist somewhere.

Because he said that the monthly decay was .01 and not .1, I kind of figured he just added an extra decimal.

 

[FreeSoc]

...Administrative is already one of the best idea groups in the game because of reduced core creation cost, reduced ADM tech cost, and merc bonuses...

...adm ideas should get something new, they kinda suck right now imho.

I'm loving the diversity of opinions on display here.

 

[TheDanish]

I'm loving the diversity of opinions on display here.

I am too. Who would argue Administrative isn't good? I mean, if you're going for a massive vassal game Influence might be a bit better, but anything that saves ADM points is golden. They're the most precious resource in the game.

EDIT: I realized it could be confusion over Administrative vs. ADM idea groups. I agree with Freudia that some of them could use some love, like Economic and Expansion. Innovative is still good but not the powerhouse it once was.

 

[saegoto]

also add harsh treatment cost reduce. change expansion: only colonist, merchant, trade power and cb are good, rest are useless. rework espionage.

 

[Wildcat_PL]

How does that government forms work. The biggest I found was "global_autonomy = -0.5"?
Does it mean that my minimum authority in overseas provinces will eventually drop from 75% and reach 25%??

 

[highsis]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Compromise! Why are people dead determined to lower autonomy to its stretch? Compromise, or deal with rebels. It's only fair and Autonomy is the only that that remotely resembles administrative efficiency in EU4. It's good as of now.

 

[Alerias]

How does that government forms work. The biggest I found was "global_autonomy = -0.5"?
Does it mean that my minimum authority in overseas provinces will eventually drop from 75% and reach 25%??

No, overseas minimum is soft capped at 75%, cant go lower unless you mod it.

It means that autonomy above the cap will go down yearly very quickly. Normal provinces will be at 0% in no time with a -0.5 reduction. Revolutionary Republic is pretty awesome now, even though the Rev Empire will also get the job done at -0.3 in no time.

Both of these are endgame governments that require you to be the Revolution Target, though.

Early on, you just gotta wait for Administrative kingdoms and Republics to unlock to get your first bonus, unless you have one of the few countries with a unique government type that has -0.1 built in.

 

[Incompetent]

An idea that constantly decreases autonomy by any appreciable amount would be OP (and Administrative ideas doesn't need any more buffs - it's already very strong). What I could get behind is a *policy* that reduces autonomy. An autonomy-reducing advisor would also work.

 

[Petrucci]

I don't care if it is policy or idea or advisor or mechanic I just want to reduce autonomy faster early game. I admit I didn't know some more advanced gov form reduce it too. In that case it doesn't have to be too much .0.1 or 0.15 would be perfectly fine.

 

[Xara]

Administrative is already one of the best idea sets. It should not get core cost reduction plus this. Put this or the other in Economic and I think you're golden. Replace the -1 interest per annum idea. In fact, make a pass throughout the game and delete everything with -1 interest everywhere.

Wouldn't mind seeing an effect of like -0.083 per month on the Philosopher advisor, or something, in addition to the +1 prestige, which is otherwise a pretty lousy advisor to have.

 

[CommunistCookie]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Compromise! Why are people dead determined to lower autonomy to its stretch? Compromise, or deal with rebels. It's only fair and Autonomy is the only that that remotely resembles administrative efficiency in EU4. It's good as of now.

I feel like half the complaints on the forum could be solved by simply making "easy" the default.