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unmerged(19003)

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The move Paradox made towards splitting the insane superkingdom of Rus into two was a right one, but I'm afraid it's not enough. Here's my proposal for further carving up of Rus into 4 Grand Principalities (somewhat historical), replacing vanilla 2. Here's what it would look like:

Zmc1YyV.jpg


Basically, this change would make Russia more realistically split into several "warring states", with already existing Kiev and Novgorod being supplemented by two Grand Principalities from North-East Rus, the cradle of modern Russia: Vladimir and Ryazan. Vladimir was a grand principality for longer than Kiev, and Ryazan kept independent political direction for quite some time after the rest of the North-East fell into Moscovian fold. Moscow actually claimed Vladimir's legacy in its supremacy over the region, and creating Muscovy as one of the kingdoms would be extremely premature (it was an empty field for half of the CK2 timeline).

I've tested this out, and it works great - 4-5 (plus Lithuania) kingdoms form and indeed compete regularly against each other and Cumans. I strongly recommend everybody trying this out.
 

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Shouldn't really be in user modifications if it's a suggestion, but okay.
Some of my suggestions:
Moving Polotsk from Lithuania (Maybe giving the county of Dvina to a duchy in Lithuania), due to the Krivichi destroying the Baltic pagans.
Forcing you to have a a Kingdom title (Grand Principality) which is not Kiev, Novgorod, Ryazan, Vladimir in order to create the Empire of Russia.
Changing the Russian cultural titles: Dukes are Princes, Kings are Grand Princes, and the Russian culture uses Petty Kingdoms.
EDIT: Also, possibly renaming Vladimir into Vladimir-Suzdal.
 
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Also, making the Russian Tengris in Terebovl Slavic.
 

unmerged(19003)

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Shouldn't really be in user modifications if it's a suggestion, but okay.

Sorry, didn't know where to put it.

Some of my suggestions:
Moving Polotsk from Lithuania (Maybe giving the county of Dvina to a duchy in Lithuania), due to the Krivichi destroying the Baltic pagans.

The thing is that Polotsk often ends up becoming GDL, making the fifth warring state. But yeah, moving Polotsk to Novgorod and Vitebsk to Kiev would work too.

Forcing you to have a a Kingdom title (Grand Principality) which is not Kiev, Novgorod, Ryazan, Vladimir in order to create the Empire of Russia.

Why?

Changing the Russian cultural titles: Dukes are Princes, Kings are Grand Princes, and the Russian culture uses Petty Kingdoms.
EDIT: Also, possibly renaming Vladimir into Vladimir-Suzdal.

CK+ already has it (Knyaz -> Veliki Knyaz -> Tsar). I'd also suggest maybe adding "voyevoda" instead of a count (a title which didn't exist in Russia until quite some time into Imperial era).

And here's my code for the four kingdoms in landed_titles.txt (ck2/common/landed_titles/landed_titles.txt). This needs to replace k_rus and k_novgorod portions of the file:

Code:
e_russia = {
    color={ 147 164 104 }
    color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
    capital = 547 # Kiev
    
    culture = russian
    
    allow = {
        OR = {
            culture_group = north_germanic
            culture_group = east_slavic
            culture_group = finno_ugric
        }
    }

    k_novgorod = {
        color={ 87 144 50 }
        color2={ 255 255 255 }
        
        capital = 414 # Novgorod
        
        slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
        finnish_pagan_reformed = 300 # Crusade target weight
        baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
        
        norse = Garрariki
        
        culture = russian
        
        allow = {
            OR = {
                culture_group = north_germanic
                culture_group = east_slavic
                culture_group = finno_ugric
            }
        }
        
        d_beloozero = {
            color={ 131 146 86 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 408 # Beloozero
            finnish = "Chud"
            samoyed = "Chud"
            mordvin = "Chud"
            lappish = "Chud"
            komi = "Chud"
            
            c_beloozero = {
                color={ 133 148 90 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_belozersk = {
                }
                b_kirillobelozersky = {
                }
                b_fedosyevo = {
                }
                b_babayevo = {
                }
                b_kinilov = {
                }
                b_kaduy = {
                }
                b_khoklovo = {
                }
                b_glushkovo = {
                }
            }
            c_zaozerye = {
                color={ 134 150 90 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_zarechnaya = {
                }
                b_nazankha = {
                }
                b_kharovsk = {
                }
                b_afoninskaya = {
                }
                b_borisovskaya = {
                }
                b_konechnaya = {
                }
                b_pashuchikha = {
                }
                b_bolshaya = {
                }
            }
            c_chud = {
                color={ 138 154 94 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_totma = {
                }
                b_krbor = {
                }
                b_kamchuga = {
                }
                b_chunlovka = {
                }
                b_zalese = {
                }
                b_krutayaosyp = {
                }
                b_veldvor = {
                }
                b_zaytsevo = {
                }
            }
            c_vologda = {
                color={ 141 158 98 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_vologda = {
                }
                b_kadnikovskaya = {
                }
                b_sokol = {
                }
                b_uste = {
                }
                b_bolshayamurga = {
                }
                b_dvinitsa = {
                }
                b_motyn = {
                }
                b_staroye = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_novgorod = {
            color={ 107 164 64 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 414 # Novgorod
            
            swedish = "Holmgеrd"
            norse = "Holmgarрr"
            danish = "Holmgеrd"
            norwegian = "Holmgеrd"
            
            pagan_coa = {
                template = 0
                layer = {
                    texture = 2
                    texture_internal = 4
                    emblem = 0
                    color = 0
                    color = 0
                    color = 0
                }
                religion = "norse_pagan"
            }
            
            c_bezhetsky_verh = { # Ladoga
                color={ 144 161 101 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                finnish = "Nevajдrvi"
                    
                b_bezhetsk = { # Staraya Ladoga
                    swedish = "Aldeigjuborg"
                    norse = "Aldeigjuborg"
                    danish = "Aldeigjuborg"
                    norwegian = "Aldeigjuborg"
                    finnish = "Alodejoki"
                }
                b_spasnakholmu = {
                    swedish = "Spеngsholm"
                    norse = "Spеngsholmr"
                    danish = "Spеngsholm"
                    norwegian = "Spngsholm"
                }
                b_sonkovo = { # Gorodishche
                    swedish = "Alaborg"
                    norse = "Alaborg"
                    danish = "Alaborg"
                    norwegian = "Alaborg"
                }
                b_kyasovagora = { # Duboviki
                }
                b_maksatikha = {
                }
                b_molokovo = { # Stolbova
                }
                b_rameshki = { # Diderino
                }
                b_obrosovo = {
                }
            }
            c_torzhok = {
                color={ 140 30 30 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
                b_yamskygorodok = {
                }
                b_shcheremenski = {
                }
                b_kingisepp = {
                }
                b_volosovo = {
                }
                b_konnovo = {
                }
                b_vistino = {
                }
                b_komarovka = {
                }
                b_vassakara = {
                }
            }        
            c_novgorod = {
                color={ 149 166 106 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                swedish = "Holmgеrd"
                norse = "Holmgarрr"
                danish = "Holmgеrd"
                norwegian = "Holmgеrd"
                        
                b_borovichi = {
                    norse = Nygarрr
                    swedish = Nygеrd
                    norwegian = Nygеrd
                    danish = Nygеrd
                }
                b_novgorod = {
                    swedish = "Holmgеrd"
                    norse = "Holmgarрr"
                    danish = "Holmgеrd"
                    norwegian = "Holmgеrd"
                }
                b_tikhvin = {
                    holy_site = slavic_pagan
                    holy_site = slavic_pagan_reformed
                    holy_site = finnish_pagan
                    holy_site = finnish_pagan_reformed                                
                }
                b_chudovo = {
                }
                b_okulovka = {
                }
                b_boldorki = {
                }
                b_pestovo = {
                }
                b_luga = {
                }
            }
            c_pskov = {
                color={ 151 167 107 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                german = "Pleskau"
                        
                b_ostrov = {
                }
                b_pskov = {
                }
                b_pechory = {
                }
                b_gdov = {
                }
                b_porkhov = {
                }
                b_dedovichi = {
                }
                b_svyatogorki = {
                }
                b_soltchi = {
                }
            }
            c_velikiye_luki = {
                color={ 154 170 110 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_velikiyeluki = {
                }
                b_sebezh = {
                }
                b_nevel = {
                }
                b_opochka = {
                }
                b_bely = {
                }
                b_usvyaty = {
                }
                b_loknya = {
                }
                b_staryatoropa = {
                }
            }
            c_toropets = {
                color={ 157 173 113 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_staryarussa = {
                }
                b_valday = {
                }
                b_toropets = {
                }
                b_demyansk = {
                }
                b_shimsk = {
                }
                b_dno = {
                }
                b_lychkovo = {
                }
                b_kresttsy = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_vitebsk = {
            color={ 196 33 55 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 417 # Vitebsk
            
            c_minsk = {
                color={ 174 43 43 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_minsk = {
                }
                b_maladzyechna = {
                }
                b_borisow = {
                }
                b_kletsk = {
                }
                b_berezino = {
                }
                b_nesvizh = {
                }
                b_valozhyn = {
                }
                b_kapyl = {
                }
            }
            c_orsha = {
                color={ 174 47 47 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_orsha = {
                }
                b_novolukomi = {
                }
                b_talachyn = {
                }
                b_sianno = {
                }
                b_shklou = {
                } 
                b_kopys = {
                }
                b_horki = {
                }
                b_larynouka = {
                }
            }
            c_vitebsk = {
                color={ 174 51 51 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_vitebsk = {
                }
                b_sakolniki = {
                }
                b_haradok = {
                }
                b_drazdy = {
                }
                b_ruba = {
                }
                b_liozno = {
                }
                b_stryzhava = {
                }
                b_baroniki = {
                }
            }
        }
    }
    
    k_vladimir = {
        color={ 180 200 90 }
        color2={ 255 255 255 }
        
        capital = 582 # Vladimir
        
        slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
        finnish_pagan_reformed = 300 # Crusade target weight
        baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
        
        culture = russian
        
        allow = {
            OR = {
                culture_group = north_germanic
                culture_group = east_slavic
                culture_group = finno_ugric
            }
        }
        
        d_rostov = {
            color={ 124 137 89 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 574 # Rostov
            
            c_pereyaslavl_zalessky = {
                color={ 163 179 119 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_pereyaslavlzalessky = {
                }
                b_sergiyevposad = {
                }
                b_aleksandrov = {
                }
                b_strunino = {
                }
                b_karabanovo = {
                }
                b_kubrinsk = {
                }
                b_kupanskoye = {
                }
                b_khmelniki = {
                }
            }
            c_rostov = {
                color={ 166 180 122 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                swedish = "Radstofa"
                norse = "Radstofa"
                danish = "Radstofa"
                norwegian = "Radstofa"
                komi=Merya
                mordvin=Merya
                samoyed=Merya
                finnish=Merya
                lappish=Merya
                    
                b_sarskoyegorodishche = {
                    komi=Merya
                    mordvin=Merya
                    samoyed=Merya
                    finnish=Merya
                    lappish=Merya
                }
                b_spasoyakovlevsky = {            
                }
                b_rostov = {
                    swedish = "Radstofa"
                    norse = "Radstofa"
                    danish = "Radstofa"
                    norwegian = "Radstofa"
                }
                b_petrovskoye = {
                }
                b_gavrilovyam = {
                }
                b_borisoglebsky = {
                }
                b_karash = {
                }
                b_shurskol = {
                }
            }
            c_uglich = {
                color={ 169 183 125 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_uglich = {
                }
                b_pertoma = {
                }
                b_kashin = {
                }
                b_kalyazin = {
                }
                b_ustscheksna = {
                }
                b_myshkin = {
                }
                b_tikhmenevo = {
                }
                b_novynekouz = {
                }
            }
        }
        
        d_tver = {
            color={ 169 183 125 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 570 # Tver
            
            c_tver = {
                color={ 172 186 128 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_tver = {
                }
                b_torzhok = {
                }
                b_ostashkov = {
                }
                b_bezhichi = {
                }
                b_tvergorodok = {
                }
                b_vyshnyvolochyok = {
                }
                b_zubtsov = {
                }
                b_udomelski = {
                }
            }
            c_vyazma = {
                color={ 175 189 131 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_vyazma = {
                }
                b_dukhov = {
                }
                b_yelnya = {
                }
                b_gzhatsky = {
                }
                b_dorogobuzh = {
                }
                b_vyazkholm = {
                }
                b_ugra = {
                }
                b_safonovo = {
                }
            }
        }
        
        d_yaroslavl = {
            color={ 178 192 134 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 572 # Yaroslavl
            
            c_kostroma = {
                color={ 181 195 137 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_kostroma = {
                }
                b_sudislavl = {
                }
                b_plyos = {
                }
                b_nerektha = {
                }
                b_apraksino = {
                }
                b_kosmynino = {
                }
                b_zavolzhsk = {
                }
                b_nekrasoskoye = {
                }
            }
            c_yaroslavl = {
                color={ 184 198 140 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_timerevo = {
                }
                b_yaroslavl = {
                }
                b_tolga = {
                }
                b_romanov = {
                }
                b_semibratovo = {
                }
                b_karabikha = {
                }
                b_putyatino = {
                }
                b_volgostroy = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_vladimir = {
            color={ 180 200 90 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 582 # Vladimir
    
            c_galich_mersky = {
                color={ 190 204 146 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_galichmersky = {
                }
                b_levkovo = {
                }
                b_gradmersky = {
                }
                b_buy = {
                }
                b_chistyebory = {
                }
                b_susanino = {
                }
                b_kadyy = {
                }
                b_isaevo = {
                }
            }
            c_gorodez = {
                color={ 193 207 149 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_gorodez = {
                }
                b_feodorovsky = {
                }
                b_kitezh = {
                }
                b_puchishche = {
                }
                b_pravdinsk = {
                }
                b_lukh = {
                }
                b_gorkovskoye = {
                }
                b_sokolskoye = {
                }
            }
            c_nizhny_novgorod = {
                color={ 196 210 152 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                komi=Ashli
                mordvin=Ashli
                samoyed=Ashli
                finnish=Ashli
                lappish=Ashli
                cuman=Ashli
                pecheneg=Ashli
                mongol=Ashli
                turkish=Ashli
                avar=Ashli
                        
                b_nizhnynovgorod = {
                    komi=Ashli
                    mordvin=Ashli
                    samoyed=Ashli
                    finnish=Ashli
                    lappish=Ashli
                    cuman=Ashli
                    pecheneg=Ashli
                    mongol=Ashli
                    turkish=Ashli
                    avar=Ashli
                }
                b_sarov = {
                }
                b_bor = {
                }
                b_kstovo = {
                }
                b_knyaginino = {
                }
                b_vasilyeva = {
                }
                b_balakhna = {
                }
                b_bogorodsk = {
                }
            }
            c_suzdal = {
                color={ 199 213 155 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                swedish = "Sursdalar"
                norse = "Sursdalar"
                danish = "Sursdalar"
                norwegian = "Sursdalar"
                        
                b_suzdal = {
                    swedish = "Sursdalar"
                    norse = "Sursdalar"
                    danish = "Sursdalar"
                    norwegian = "Sursdalar"
                }
                b_bogolyubovo = {
                }
                b_suzstarodub = {
                }
                b_suzivanovo = {
                }
                b_kovrov = {
                }
                b_seredaupino = {
                }
                b_teykovo = {
                }
                b_lezhnevo = {
                }
            }
            c_vladimir = {
                color={ 202 216 158 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                        
                b_vladimir = {
                }
                b_yuryevpolsky = {
                }
                b_volochok = {
                }
                b_undol = {
                }
                b_petuschki = {
                }
                b_sudogda = {
                }
                b_sobinka = {
                }
                b_kosterevo = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_moskva = {
            color={ 207 222 123 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 575 # Moskva
            
            c_mozhaysk = {
                color={ 228 168 7 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
                b_volgamozhaysk = {
                }
                b_shakhunya = {
                }
                b_yaransk = {
                }
                b_vakhtan = {
                }
                b_varnavino = {
                }
                b_kiknur = {
                }
                b_tonshaevo = {
                }
                b_uren = {
                }
            }
            c_moskva = {
                color={ 220 235 176 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_moskva = {
                }
                b_rogozhi = {
                }
                b_kaluga = {
                }
                b_serpukhov = {
                }
                b_belyov = {
                }
                b_mozhaysk = {
                }
                b_rzhev = {
                }
                b_klin = {
                }
            }
        }
    }
    
    k_kiev = {
        color={ 147 164 104 }
        color2={ 255 255 255 }
        
        capital = 547 # Kiev
        
        culture = russian
        
        slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
        baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
        tengri_pagan_reformed = 100
        finnish_pagan_reformed = 100
        
        allow = {
            OR = {
                culture_group = north_germanic
                culture_group = east_slavic 
            }
        }
        
        norse = Kцnugarрr
        swedish = Kцnugеrd
        norwegian = Kшnugеrd
        danish = Kшnugеrd
        
        d_kiev = {
            color={ 129 187 125 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            dignity = 10 # Counted as having 10 more counties than it does
            capital = 547 # Kiev
            
            norse = Kцnugarрr
            swedish = Kцnugеrd
            norwegian = Kшnugеrd
            danish = Kшnugеrd
            
            pagan_coa = {
                template = 0
                layer = {
                    texture = 2
                    texture_internal = 1
                    emblem = 0
                    color = 0
                    color = 0
                    color = 0
                }
                religion = "norse_pagan"
            }
    
            c_korsun = {
                color={ 102 102 22 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_korsun = {
                }
                b_kaniv = {
                }
                b_cherkassy = {
                }
                b_smila = {
                }
                b_zolotonosha = {
                }
                b_uman = {
                }
                b_zhuravky = {
                }
                b_mirov = {
                }
            }
            c_kiev = {
                color={ 106 106 26 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                norse = Kцnugarрr
                swedish = Kцnugеrd
                norwegian = Kшnugеrd
                danish = Kшnugеrd
    
                b_kiev = {
                    norse = Kцnugarрr
                    swedish = Kцnugеrd
                    norwegian = Kшnugеrd
                    danish = Kшnugеrd
                }
                b_yuriev = {
                    holy_site = slavic_pagan
                    holy_site = slavic_pagan_reformed                
                }
                b_iskorosten = {
                }
                b_vyshhorod = {
                }
                b_ovruch = {
                }
                b_zhitomir = {
                }
                b_malyn = {
                }
                b_fastiv = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_galich = {
            color={ 224 112 130 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 536 # Galich
            
            c_terebovl = {
                color={ 104 104 24 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_terebovl = {
                }
                b_pochayivlavra = {
                }
                b_bratslav = {
                }
                b_kremenets = {
                }
                b_borschiv = {
                }
                b_vinnytsia = {
                }
                b_buchach = {
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                b_zalischyky = {
                }
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                color={ 254 255 215 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_galich = {
                }
                b_lvov = {
                }
                b_dubno = {
                }
                b_vasyliv = {
                }
                b_kolomyia = {
                }
                b_ternopil = {
                }
                b_buzhsk = {
                }
                b_brody = {
                }
            }
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                color={ 254 255 218 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_peremyshl = {
                }
                b_jaroslav = {
                }
                b_sanok = {
                }
                b_lubaczow = {
                }
                b_grodek = {
                }
                b_rzeszow = {
                }
                b_volkrosno = {
                }
                b_jaslo = {
                }
            }
        }
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            color={ 204 155 121 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 535 # Vladimir Volynsky
    
            c_vladimir_volynsky = {
                color={ 255 255 223 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_vladimirvolynsky = {
                }
                b_kovel = {
                }
                b_kholm = {
                }
                b_ivanichy = {
                }
                b_hrubieszow = {
                }
                b_torchyn = {
                }
                b_cherven = {
                }
                b_luboml = {
                }
            }
            c_beresty = {
                color={ 255 255 225 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_beresty = {
                }
                b_bielsk = {
                }
                b_kobryn = {
                } 
                b_kamyanyets = {
                }
                b_mielnik = {
                }
                b_lublin = {
                }
                b_wlodawa = {
                }
                b_parczew = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_turov = {
            color={ 166 85 87 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 552 # Turov
            
            c_turov = {
                color={ 166 89 91 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_turov = {
                }
                b_dubrovitsya = {
                }
                b_mazyr = {
                }
                b_slutsk = {
                }
                b_zhytkavichy = {
                }
                b_bobruisk = {
                }
                b_petrykaw = {
                }
                b_yelsk = {
                }
            }
            c_pinsk = {
                color={ 166 93 95 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_pinsk = {
                }
                b_lutsk = {
                }
                b_porkhovo = {
                }
                b_biaroza = {
                }
                b_stepan = {
                }
                b_kosava = {
                }
                b_luninets = {
                }
                b_dabuchin = {
                }
            }
        }
                
        d_pereyaslavl = {
            color={ 232 200 115 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 555 # Pereyaslavl
        
            c_pereyaslavl = {
                color={ 235 205 118 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_pereyaslavl = {
                }
                b_myrhorod = {
                }
                b_hadyach = {
                }
                b_chornukhy = {
                }
                b_hrebinka = {
                }
                b_lokhvytsia = {
                }
                b_boryspil = {
                }
                b_velykisorochyntsi = {
                }
            }
            c_chortitza = {
                color={ 234 194 88 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
                b_ltava = {
                }
                b_chortitza = {
                }
                b_baszmacka = {
                }
                b_lubny = {
                }
                b_alexandrowsk = {
                }
                b_rasumowka = {
                }
                b_vosnesjensk = {
                }
                b_khorol = {
                }
            }
        }
    }
    
    k_ryazan = {
        color={ 110 115 45 }
        color2={ 255 255 255 }
        
        capital = 580 # Ryazan
        
        culture = russian
        
        slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
        baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
        tengri_pagan_reformed = 100
        finnish_pagan_reformed = 100
        
        allow = {
            OR = {
                culture_group = north_germanic
                culture_group = east_slavic 
            }
        }
        
        d_smolensk = {
            color={ 226 241 182 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 568 # Smolensk
            
            c_smolensk = {
                color={ 229 244 185 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                swedish = "Smaleskja"
                norse = "Smaleskja"
                danish = "Smaleskja"
                norwegian = "Smaleskja"
                    
                b_smolensk = {
                    swedish = "Smaleskja"
                    norse = "Smaleskja"
                    danish = "Smaleskja"
                    norwegian = "Smaleskja"
                }
                b_velizh = {
                }
                b_demidov = {
                }
                b_krasnoi = {
                }
                b_przhevalskoye = {
                }
                b_rodnya = {
                }
                b_yartsevo = {
                }
            }
            c_roslavl = {
                color={ 239 242 185 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_roslavl = {
                }
                b_pochinok = {
                }
                b_chocimsk = {
                }
            }
            c_mstislavl = {
                color={ 232 247 188 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_mstitslavl = {
                }
                b_krychaw = {
                }
                b_mogilev = {
                }
                b_bychaw = {
                }
                b_chavusy = {
                }
                b_zhlobin = {
                }
                b_chachersk = {
                }
                b_rahacou = {
                }
            }
        }
        d_chernigov = {
            color={ 150 235 91 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 554 # Chernigov
            
            c_lyubech = {
                color={ 238 253 194 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_lyubech = {
                }
                b_rechytsa = {
                }
                b_gomel = {
                }
                b_brahin = {
                }
                b_loyew = {
                }
                b_zlynka = {
                }
                b_klimovo = {
                }
                b_novozybkov = {
                }
            }
            c_chernigov = {
                color={ 242 255 197 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_chernigov = {
                }
                b_kozelets = {
                }
                b_nizhyn = {
                }
                b_borzna = {
                }
                b_horodnia = {
                }
                b_gorodets = {
                }
                b_sosnytsia = {
                }
                b_mglin = {
                }
            }
        }
        
        d_novgorod-seversk = { # Called Bryansk in-game
            color = { 120 155 40 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 567 # Novgorod Seversky
    
            c_novgorod_seversky = {
                color={ 19 128 77 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_novgorodseversky = {
                }
                b_starodub = {
                }
                b_glukhov = {
                }
                b_rysk = {
                }
                b_putivl = {
                }
                b_trubchevsk = {
                }
                b_sevsk = {
                }
                b_semenivka = {
                }
            }
            c_bryansk = {
                color={ 223 238 179 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_bryansk = {
                }
                b_pochep = {
                    holy_site = baltic_pagan
                    holy_site = baltic_pagan_reformed
                }
                b_orel = {
                }
                b_karachev = {
                }
                b_dyatkovo = {
                }
                b_klynov = {
                }
                b_belev = {
                }
                b_mtsensk = {
                }
            }
        }
        
        d_ryazan = {
            color={ 110 115 45 }
            color2={ 255 255 255 }
            
            capital = 580 # Ryazan
            
            c_pronsk = {
                color={ 22 131 80 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
    
                b_pronsk = {
                }
                b_yelets = {
                }
                b_tula = {
                }
                b_mikhaylov = {
                }
                b_skopin = {
                }
                b_ryazhsk = {
                }
                b_sergijewskoje = {
                }
                b_bogoroditsk = {
                }
            }    
            c_murom = {
                color={ 208 222 164 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                swedish = "Moramar"
                norse = "Moramar"
                danish = "Moramar"
                norwegian = "Moramar"
                
                b_murom = {
                    swedish = "Moramar"
                    norse = "Moramar"
                    danish = "Moramar"
                    norwegian = "Moramar"
                }
                b_moramar = {
                }
                b_melenki = {
                }
                b_vyksa = {
                }
                b_kulebaki = {
                }
                b_vilya = {
                }
                b_mordovshchikovo = {
                }
                b_lipnya = {
                }
            }
            c_ryazan = {
                color={ 211 225 167 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                    
                b_ryazan = {
                }
                b_solotcha = {
                    holy_site = finnish_pagan
                    holy_site = finnish_pagan_reformed
                }
                b_grodets = {
                }
                b_spassk = {
                }
                b_korablino = {
                }
                b_rybnino = {
                }
                b_sasovo = {
                }
                b_klepiki = {
                }
            }
            c_kolomna = {
                color={ 214 228 170 }
                color2={ 255 255 255 }
                
                b_kolomna = {
                }
                b_glukhovichi = {
                }
                b_zaraysk = {
                }
                b_bronnitsy = {
                }
                b_ramenskoye = {
                }
                b_egorevsk = {
                }
                b_peski = {
                }
                b_cherkizovo = {
                }
            }
        }
    }
}

The new kingdoms have to be added to localisation texts (ck2/localisation/0_titles.csv), and their COA's need to be made in flags (ck2/gfx/flags). Obviously, not a very simple process, but I could get this "mod" uploaded somewhere, if needed.
 

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Shouldn't really be in user modifications if it's a suggestion, but okay.
Some of my suggestions:
Moving Polotsk from Lithuania (Maybe giving the county of Dvina to a duchy in Lithuania), due to the Krivichi destroying the Baltic pagans.
Forcing you to have a a Kingdom title (Grand Principality) which is not Kiev, Novgorod, Ryazan, Vladimir in order to create the Empire of Russia.
Changing the Russian cultural titles: Dukes are Princes, Kings are Grand Princes, and the Russian culture uses Petty Kingdoms.
EDIT: Also, possibly renaming Vladimir into Vladimir-Suzdal.

If this suggestion would have been made in the general CK II forum, then you probably would have had more debate on this subject too. Personally, unless one uses a map mod which adds more provinces to this, I don't think splitting it in two is too little. In fact for me they also didn't have to, for example, split France (into France and Aquitania) or Germany; in other words I don't mind larger kingdoms.
However IMHO if one uses a map mod like SWMH, then those extra kingdoms won't IMHO become "too easy to create"*. Another point may be that different starting dates might ideally require some adaptations to the de jure setup too.

(*= I don't mind smaller historic kingdoms like Navarra or Bohemia)

I do however agree with your suggestion to move Polotsk from Lithuania, with the exception of Dvina; maybe for starts after 1240 it could again be (de jure) transferred to Lithuania.
 

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If this suggestion would have been made in the general CK II forum, then you probably would have had more debate on this subject too. Personally, unless one uses a map mod which adds more provinces to this, I don't think splitting it in two is too little. In fact for me they also didn't have to, for example, split France (into France and Aquitania) or Germany; in other words I don't mind larger kingdoms.
However IMHO if one uses a map mod like SWMH, then those extra kingdoms won't IMHO become "too easy to create"*. Another point may be that different starting dates might ideally require some adaptations to the de jure setup too.

(*= I don't mind smaller historic kingdoms like Navarra or Bohemia)

I do however agree with your suggestion to move Polotsk from Lithuania, with the exception of Dvina; maybe for starts after 1240 it could again be (de jure) transferred to Lithuania.
The current setup makes Ruthenia (which should be Kiev) and Rus (which should be Novgorod) very unequal. Rostov always forms Rus unless there's some catastrophe, and Ruthenia's too large. Also, the best reason to move it to the main forum (with a much clearer name, such as "The Kingdoms of the Rus" or "Division of the Rus") is that more people will see it, and it's not a mod suggestion.
 

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Russian superkingdom is never created by the AI, therefore it's too hard to create. In reality - there were Grand Principalities in Rus throughout the middle ages and beyond, with liege princes ruling over the vassal ones, which (currently) is not at all shown in CK2, as Grand Principalities are nearly impossible to crate, and Rus is a patchwork of completely independent principalities. It's not just less fun than the warring kingdoms - it's also completely unrealistic.

PS. Sorry about posting it to the wrong place. If anyone can move it - please do.