Sudentenland

[Vin55]

I am quite frankly bored of how as Germany you dont get a core on it when the chzech republic says no. The place was german speaking the population had little ties to the chzech government especially since they where also quite nationalistic. In alt history it is more or less always being denied, so I would suggest to make it a core anyways.
In alt history over 70 percent of the time they say no because of how late France is with switching if they chose alt history.
I mean also with anschluss denied (again for most the population was for it) I can somewhat understand that the population would not be so happy if they said no (which Hitler and the 3rd Reich would have manipulated anway).
Or just give an Option in the focus tree to core it for some stability or something. If France can have nothern Africa as core Germany should get Austria and Sudetenland even if they say no.
Ok even more funny if they first say no and later when the first vienna ruling gets skipped and then they submit, you will not get the core as well ^^ what?

 

[Wceend]

Same really with Memel. If you do Danzig or war, however, you DO get a core on Danzig if Poland says no, so it is odd that the same does not apply to Sudetenland. It would be nice if forming Greater Germany would give some cores on Sudetenland, Austria (including South Tirol), Memel and Danzig (maybe even the rest of the former Polish lands of the German Empire).

On a slightly unrelated note, it would be nice if Democratic Germany could get some more cores through its focus tree, decisions or events. You get two on Poland, but only if you let them die, and also Austria. Let me ask for Danzig, Memel and Sudetenland from the Poles, Czechs and Lithuanians if they are in my faction in exchange for some kind of bonus, or give me cores on Alsace-Lorraine and South Tirol if France and Italy are fascists or something.

 

[Lord Romanus II]

Like a consumer goods reduction buff for the countries that exchange those lands or stability increase through homogenization maybe. That can work.

 

[Zeprion]

Or simply just give Germany a core on Sudetenland from the start of the game. Isn't core supposed to be a region where the majority of the population is supportive of your rule? In 8/10 cases, that means the majority of the population is of the same ethnicity as the mother nation. Cores aren't supposed to change based on a political decision now and then in my opinion. You can have a core without a claim or a claim without a core.

 

[Happy Trigger]

I think that all states gained through focuses, should be counted as core. Because they should be counted as realpolitik, not conquest. And the one gained by decisions, the player should get at least 30% of compliance (50% would be better).

 

[Vlad123]

I think that all states gained through focuses, should be counted as core. Because they should be counted as realpolitik, not conquest. And the one gained by decisions, the player should get at least 30% of compliance (50% would be better).

If italy claim nice and savoy are why they consider these italians!

 

[Zeprion]

I think that all states gained through focuses, should be counted as core. Because they should be counted as realpolitik, not conquest. And the one gained by decisions, the player should get at least 30% of compliance (50% would be better).

Your name is Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz, a Polish farmer in Eastern Poland, who was just annexed by USSR through realpolitik. Do you really care whether the region was annexed through realpolitik or conquest? Chances are, you're going to be hostile towards USSR either way.

I think it's impossible for Germany to gain cores on Slovenia (just one example) no matter the way Germany got Slovenia. The Slovenes are simply not going to accept being part of Germany. They might become compliant, but they will never become cooperative. That's what a core is about, which is why I think is best represented by ethnicity and fixed for everyone from the start of the game.

 

[Vlad123]

Your name is Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz, a Polish farmer in Eastern Poland, who was just annexed by USSR through realpolitik. Do you really care whether the region was annexed through realpolitik or conquest? Chances are, you're going to be hostile towards USSR either way.

I think it's impossible for Germany to gain cores on Slovenia (just one example) no matter the way Germany got Slovenia. The Slovenes are simply not going to accept being part of Germany. They might become compliant, but they will never become cooperative. That's what a core is about, which is why I think is best represented by ethnicity and fixed for everyone from the start of the game.

The problem is ... if you could increase compliance? Like making the population feel better than they were before? Example obtaining "half core" (therefore core plus malus to that province which halves the bonuses, but only for Germany of course, if it controls it) ie if the compilance is very high, even if not core, they could cooperate, because, unfortunately, transform a puppet the occupied territory, does not always pay off (example you do not have control of the dockyard, if you occupy it)obviously this last thing could be resolved by PDX by putting something in the puppets to give us control of the Dockyard.

 

[Vin55]

I would agree that for some regions Germany should have this extra compliance at least the ai because they cannot handle resistance at all^^ and slovenia was probs the only part with coratia where Germany was not completley swarmed by resistance in real life ^^ you also should do this on the historic corridor where the majority was polish speaking with a large german minority, the same with kattovice province. I mean like with wat you get Bohemia atm 50 percent sound ok on 3 provinces you get in the east dunno. (A german path for eliminating Italy would be cool with south tyrol as core ^^ 600k core is better than an Italian ally in the game)

 

[Cpt.Cross]

Or simply just give Germany a core on Sudetenland from the start of the game. Isn't core supposed to be a region where the majority of the population is supportive of your rule? In 8/10 cases, that means the majority of the population is of the same ethnicity as the mother nation. Cores aren't supposed to change based on a political decision now and then in my opinion. You can have a core without a claim or a claim without a core.

Its very deliberately done so that it cant be abused by German Players as you could justify on both Poland and Czechs earlier with a lower WT gain and even tie the 2 wars together to annex both without Allies interfering.

 

[Happy Trigger]

Your name is Grzegorz Brzeczyszczykiewicz, a Polish farmer in Eastern Poland, who was just annexed by USSR through realpolitik. Do you really care whether the region was annexed through realpolitik or conquest? Chances are, you're going to be hostile towards USSR either way.

I think it's impossible for Germany to gain cores on Slovenia (just one example) no matter the way Germany got Slovenia. The Slovenes are simply not going to accept being part of Germany. They might become compliant, but they will never become cooperative. That's what a core is about, which is why I think is best represented by ethnicity and fixed for everyone from the start of the game.

1) The polish weren't annex by the soviets through negociations.
2) The soviets were well know around the world for their crimes against their own people, anyone annex by them would resist.
3) Most of the core regions that you can claim in the game have to some degree, had enough people of the nationality in question living on that land, to give, if not complet annexation of this land, at least a good compliance on that area.

 

[Happy Trigger]

Another think that nobody is talking about, is that Germany and the other fascist nations should get some bonuses of compliance through propaganda. The Waffen-SS was built with lot of foreigners that believed in the idea of war against internacional bolshevism. So, the player should be able to do some decisions with the chance of increase the compliance in the invanded country, when the invasion of USSR start.

The same could be said of the campain in north Africa. Rommel was known as "The Liberator". So people in middle east (at least Egipt) saw the war against the british in a positive way, and it could be represented with compliance.

 

[Ketchup & friends]

The Demand Sudetenland focus should create a core, similar to Danzig.

For balance, Austria should start with cores on Sudetenland and Eastern Sudetenland states.

 

[KubiG37]

What I hate about occupation is when you're a democratic nation playing the "liberator", you "occupy" states of democratic countries that were previously taken by force (like Poland, Czechoslovakia, China...) by another fascist or communist nation, and the people there get even MORE upset than before!

 

[Paul.Ketcham]

The last two DLCs added province features that would make this a crapload simpler. The penalties applied by the traditionalist provinces in Turkey, for instance, penalize a player who doesn't have their support but without taking away a core. Reduced max factories, reduced manpower, and other (?) penalties for "partial cores" would help to fix the issue of states that might be cores, but aren't thoroughly (i.e. Hungarian cores where they are the ethnic minority). Then, presumably, you could take actions to appease the local population (preferably decisions) to slowly reduce these penalties, and possibly restricted to a greater or lesser degree for more authoritarian ideologies (meaning democrats could better earn local support than fascists, who could suppress dissent but not exactly earn Polish support from Poznan).

For territories that are somewhat hostile (i.e. Alsace-Lorraine) or not quite partial cores yet, you could use the same mechanics to buff the compliance and other bonuses of colonial territories, thus dulling the edge of not having a core (in particular for territories like those British and American colonies that are firmly-loyal, i.e. Gibraltar or Midway).

 

[Vlad123]

The last two DLCs added province features that would make this a crapload simpler. The penalties applied by the traditionalist provinces in Turkey, for instance, penalize a player who doesn't have their support but without taking away a core. Reduced max factories, reduced manpower, and other (?) penalties for "partial cores" would help to fix the issue of states that might be cores, but aren't thoroughly (i.e. Hungarian cores where they are the ethnic minority). Then, presumably, you could take actions to appease the local population (preferably decisions) to slowly reduce these penalties, and possibly restricted to a greater or lesser degree for more authoritarian ideologies (meaning democrats could better earn local support than fascists, who could suppress dissent but not exactly earn Polish support from Poznan).

For territories that are somewhat hostile (i.e. Alsace-Lorraine) or not quite partial cores yet, you could use the same mechanics to buff the compliance and other bonuses of colonial territories, thus dulling the edge of not having a core (in particular for territories like those British and American colonies that are firmly-loyal, i.e. Gibraltar or Midway).

this thing i propose from month!