Succession question: any risks involved with mercenary heirs?

[Dimitri Cosmos]

I'm a tribal emperor with agnatic eldership and the temporal head of my religion.
My chosen successor is my son – a feudal mercenary* adventurer captain with primogeniture succession.

1.If my son becomes the new emperor will he become a tribal emperor as well?
2. Will the succession type stay the same (agnatic eldership)?
3. What will happen to the mercenary band? Will it become disbanded or inherited by his oldest son?
4. Any other concerns?

*Notes: I could appoint my son as a mercenary captain, because I have the blood of Attila.
My son is matrilinealy married, because I wanted his children to have the blood of Lodbrok. His wife is homosexual though and hasn't produced any children. If the succession changes to primogeniture, apparently there's a risk of game over.

 

[Tryvenyal]

Then his mercenary band is temporary? He will leave it behind when inheriting your throne... Though.. Bugs in this area is not uncommon....

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

Bugs in this area is not uncommon....

That's what I'm afraid of. Once lost the game, because my dynasty changed.

 

[Castimirr]

Marrying him that way was very risky unless she is also in your dynasty. If any of them inherit you will either have to switch to another landed dynast or get a game over.

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

Marrying him that way was very risky unless she is also in your dynasty. If any of them inherit you will either have to switch to another landed dynast or get a game over.

Not risky, if I keep the eldership. Also, I can divorce her instantly. I can even kill her and obfuscate, because I have the silent killer bloodline.

 

[TheRealRemus]

the mercenary Band should disband as soon as he inherits your throne.

 

[jonjowett]

FYI: Mercenary children created via blood of Attila/Ashina use the nomad mercenary rules. (They are literally the same events/decisions in the code.) (These rules/events are very different to those for the single "feudal" mercenary company that can be created by any settled ruler.)

AFAIK, succession for nomad-type mercenary children is fine in 3.0. If you're worried, you can call your mercenary child back to court at any time.

There are some bugs with bloodline/nomad mercenaries in 3.0, but I don't think you'll be affected:
- Female rulers cannot send their children away as mercenaries
- Mercenary children who change religion (eg. via secret society reveal) get kicked out of their mercenary band

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

OK, later I picked my grandson who was not a mercenary captain and later his son who was. I swicthed to feudalism by that time, however, as pointed out before, the mercenary band (that is created by the "Blood of Attila/Ashina" decision) is disbanded. Hence, the answers are following.

1.If my son becomes the new emperor will he become a tribal emperor as well?

1. Yes. And if you're feudal, he'll become feudal, as well.

2. Will the succession type stay the same (agnatic eldership)?

2. Yes.

3. What will happen to the mercenary band? Will it become disbanded or inherited by his oldest son?

3. It will become disbanded.

4. Any other concerns?

4. There's a high chance that the son will become lustful, drunkard, cruel, wroth, brave, diligent. He might contract a venereal disease and have a lover or a few. Sending away sons as adventurers also reduce levy size by 2.5% in all your provinces. The son will get +3 monthly prestige for being a captain and will lose monthly prestige for being a tanist and a prince (-0,75 and -0,25 respectively).

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

You can call your sons back at any time. But if they are captains, you don't get prestige penalty for having an unlanded son.

 

[majdavlk]

The son will get +3 monthly prestige for being a captain and will lose monthly prestige for being a tanist and a prince (-0,75 and -0,25 respectively).

are you sure thay you loose prestige for being a tanist and prince?

 

[Castimirr]

Do they count as "outside the realm" for the realm inheritance laws?

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

are you sure thay you loose prestige for being a tanist and prince?

Yes.

I don't understand though, why this prince has no +3 prestige for starting a mercenary band. This other prince, however, has it.

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

Do they count as "outside the realm" for the realm inheritance laws?

No. They are residing in your capital, if not on contract. And I have never seen them on contract, only the permanent mercenary bands that you can create by paying 50 gold and sending away a courtier with a military education. You can hire both, though. The first type of mercenary bands will have a composition that matches your demesne levy. The second type of mercenary bands will have whatever you give them, starting simple.

 

[jonjowett]

I don't understand though, why this prince has no +3 prestige for starting a mercenary band. This other prince, however, has it.

It's probably a character modifier that expires after a few years. (The second character has a sword icon in the character modifiers line, the first one doesn't.)

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

I'm pretty sure that my current ruler had this prestige bonus all the time, when he was a captain. Perhaps, it's the other way round. There's an event along the lines "Your son has established himself as a renowned mercenary captain" or smth like that. My other prince started his band earlier. So, perhaps, my tanist prince just haven't reached that point yet.

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

I'm pretty sure that my current ruler had this prestige bonus all the time, when he was a captain. Perhaps, it's the other way round. There's an event along the lines "Your son has established himself as a renowned mercenary captain" or smth like that. My other prince started his band earlier. So, perhaps, my tanist prince just haven't reached that point yet.

Ah, no I was wrong. I checked it again. It's indeed a temporary modifier.

It's probably a character modifier that expires after a few years. (The second character has a sword icon in the character modifiers line, the first one doesn't.)

 

[Dimitri Cosmos]

Ah, no I was wrong. I checked it again. It's indeed a temporary modifier.

But later they get another modifier "Mercenary traditions", which provides +3 monthly prestige, manpower and levy size bonuses.