Succession game!

[stiiknafuulia]

Uh-oh. It seems that my worst fears have indeed materialized: to say that my laptop can 'run' the game would be an insult not only to running, but to *crawling* as well. The closest comparison to the performance of this fine piece of driftwood--, err, sorry, *hardware*, is that of a drunk turtle. A *crippled* drunk turtle. With Alzheimer's. And it has a philosophy not to hurry in any aspect of its life -- all of which are slow ones by default.

...So, barring Bill Gates knockin' at my chamber door with a brand-spanking new system, I will have to be 'out of pocket' (as I believe is the SG lingo for skipping one's turn?) until 18th of this month, give or take a day or two. Oh well. I have a lot of work to do as well, so it's not that bad I guess. Meanwhile we can work out the details of the new SG (if we do end up starting it).

 

[Myquandro]

I'm almost done building my brand new gaming/work PC which means that I can play Cities Skylines (and other games) more frequently. It makes it also easier to work with different files as it's a windows PC instead of running Mac. Helps a lot with this sharing of a save file.

 

[Spockyt]

I'll also post the problems I have with my computer, every now and then the entire computer freezes, so I can play, but I will have to save frequently.

 

[Myquandro]

Maybe you can try one of these auto save mods.

 

[Spockyt]

Maybe you can try one of these auto save mods.

There is an autosave mod? That would be wonderful. Do you have a link to it?

 

[Myquandro]

I haven't used any autosave mod and I know there are a few. This one seems to do the job well as it also has a lot of subscribers.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406123642

 

[Myquandro]

Who is playing now?

 

[Spockyt]

I'm here and have picked up the file. I have my vote on enabling traffic manager

If I have followed it correctly, it is TheChaoticVoid's turn.

 

[stiiknafuulia]

If I have followed it correctly, it is TheChaoticVoid's turn.

Yes. He's been at it for 5 days now (if I count correctly). Granted that it was Mothers' Day today, and hey, a week's a week, as we agreed. For the next game I still think ~4 days would be enough time per turn though.

 

[Spockyt]

Yes. He's been at it for 5 days now (if I count correctly). Granted that it was Mothers' Day today, and hey, a week's a week, as we agreed. For the next game I still think ~4 days would be enough time per turn though.

Tuesday-Late Sunday, yep. I forgot it was Mothers' Day in other parts of the world today.

 

[ItalianGuy]

I was experimenting with Traffic++ and its new beta lane manager. I love the intersection customisation, it does exactly what I thought Traffic Manager should have done in its Change Lanes tool...
The problem is that it kills nice mods like mass transit colour lines and road protractor, and doesn't have a priority tool. And the most important thing is that it changes the save file that can't be loaded without ghost mode.

Anyway, let's wait for TheCahoticVoid. One week is not a lot, in the worst case the next one will play on Wednesday.

 

[stiiknafuulia]

@Myquandro (and others): This post contains some useful advice regarding the apparently low Residential demand in our city, tax policy, etc:

http://community.simtropolis.com/topic/67427-residential-demand-how-to-get-more/

The usual reason for low apparent residential demand is that as residential buildings level up through increasing education, they gain increased capacity. After a glut of high density residential zoning, if your education is solid, you wont see demand for a long long time, as those buildings educate and level up. It's worth noting that newly moved in cims are always dummies, apparently only an idiot would immigrate to one of our cities, so every new cim has to be educated up from zero education, this means new apartment buildings always upgrade incrementally over time.

The low demand is not real. Demand is still increasing as normal - it's just being used up immediately filling the vacancies in the newly upgraded, roomier apartment buildings.

The same thing happens with C and I demand, but the difference is that because they are dependent on the education of the workers, if your workforce is highly educated C and I can upgrade almost immediately. The lag time between zoning and achieving maximum capacity, is much shorter. Although under some circumstances, like if your city is poorly serviced, and you dramatically upgrade a key service, you might get a sudden huge increase in C or I capacity, resulting in zero'd out apparent demand for a while.

If you want to see residential demand you just have to be conservative in zoning high density, remembering to account not only for the lvl1 capacity, but also for the maximum capacity.

Edit: By the way, you should be able to mostly leave taxes alone. I would certainly never put R taxes over 9%. You can get away with raising commercial or industrial taxes. On hard mode you just have to be strategic in your services. Use lots of bus because it's a brilliant money spinner and by far the lowest hanging fruit for upgrading building levels (really, once you have the bus depot, bus lines are not only free, they actually earn you money while raising building levels which dramatically increases tax income - no other service compares), use metro only to alleviate excessive traffic because it probably wont turn a profit, and passenger rail not at all. Minimize the use of cargo terminals/ports, probably about 1 per 40,000 cims assuming you make your own goods - a terminal can service so much industry, it's about 4-6 4x4 city blocks of industry, don't have more or less terminals than needed. Also get just enough incinerators to manage the city trash, use the trash view to know how many to build. Focus more on profitable services, than 'subsidized' ones. Running a lean mean economy should give you great profits at default taxes. In my hard mode city I ran a solid profit about 20,000/week with lvl6 residential. Striving for lvl6 residential actually made the city more profitable, the additional taxes outweighed the service expenses (if you think about it, lvl6 buildings don't use any more Fire, Police or recreation than lvl1, nor in practice healthcare and university, so profit margins tend to improve). I did tweak C and I taxes, but with such a large profit I certainly didn't need to.

So -- making a network of buses should become a top priority, to ensure our buildings level up properly. If you're still in the process of playing your turn, TheChaoticVoid, I suggest that you start with developing the network, and the next player (JerkyJerry) can continue it.

EDIT: A few other relevant posts from the same thread:

There are a lot of things that influence residential capacity but the first obvious one is going to be education. Once they start getting educated then they'll want parks and services which increase land value and land value is a huge trigger for leveling.

The fact that taxes can go from 0 to 29% but anything over 9% at 90% R happiness slows down the R demand looks to me like a bug or a design flaw.

So, keep the residential taxes at 9 % or under at all times.

 

[Spockyt]

So -- making a network of buses should become a top priority, to ensure our buildings level up properly. If you're still in the process of playing your turn, TheChaoticVoid, I suggest that you start with developing the network, and the next player (JerkyJerry) can continue it.

Make sure it works, and is completed before my go, as in my cities, I just mess up public transport. Too many buses, no enough buses, stops not being used, 100's of people waiting at stops after I discontinue the bus service, and constantly making a large loss. Do not let me be responsible for the public transport.

 

[stiiknafuulia]

Make sure it works, and is completed before my go, as in my cities, I just mess up public transport. Too many buses, no enough buses, stops not being used, 100's of people waiting at stops after I discontinue the bus service, and constantly making a large loss. Do not let me be responsible for the public transport.

Well JerkyJerry is next, and he's still MIA. FWIW I've just pm'ed him about whether he's still playing his turn. But if he's not, well, if you really feel like you'd butcher the bus network, you can always wait until it's Calad's turn (he's right after you), so the blame falls upon the creator, so to speak (let's face it, only a genius could make the buses work flawlessly in the chaotic mess that is Heavenly Falls... We might want to rename our city, one of these days ).

 

[ItalianGuy]

We might want to rename our city, one of these days

Heavenly Falls of Hell

 

[Spockyt]

Well JerkyJerry is next, and he's still MIA. FWIW I've just pm'ed him about whether he's still playing his turn. But if he's not, well, if you really feel like you'd butcher the bus network, you can always wait until it's Calad's turn (he's right after you), so the blame falls upon the creator, so to speak (let's face it, only a genius could make the buses work flawlessly in the chaotic mess that is Heavenly Falls... We might want to rename our city, one of these days ).

I think if it gets to my turn and the buses are not anywhere near completed, I might skip a go.

 

[stiiknafuulia]

I think if it gets to my turn and the buses are not anywhere near completed, I might skip a go.

I think that's being overly cautious, but if you want to, I'm sure Calad will agree to play before you.

I kinda wanted to go with trains tbh (I like how they look, gives some variety amongst all the concrete), but since buses have that special 'leveling effect', I guess we can't afford to forego them... And it might be overkill to have *both* buses *and* trains. We shall see I suppose.

EDIT: Just got word from JerkyJerry that he is still interested and ready to play his turn after TheChaoticVoid is finished with his! I'm surprised that no one else had pm'd him, but at least now we have our full roster present and accounted for (assuming ofc that TCV will post his report sometime tomorrow morning).

 

[Myquandro]

Heavenly Falls of Hell

Chaotic Cliffs

 

[JerkyJerry]

Ok boys I'm having difficulty loading the map
I have winzip
I can't open the file
I can't find where these 'hidden' files are

HELP!
I'm an idiot!
HELP!

 

[ItalianGuy]

What hidden files?