Is it possible to create an Theater HQ and have it control (for germany) the anti-shipping war ( subs and planes ) in the atlantic ?
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I doubt it since a Theatre encompasses Land, Air, and Sea forces. It would be a part of the West Front Threartre.
It would be nice with a "North Atlantic Theatre" that was given order to disrupt allied shipping. Air and ground units assigned to the theatre might for example help protect naval-bases and bomb convoys.
I guess however that this is not the case on release.
I guess however that this is not the case on release.
You don't have to put land forces in the theater, though, so... Your point is?
IIRC a theatre HQ appears when your forces 'enter' a new Area, like N. Afrika. I do not know what kriteria the AI uses for determanating wether a new Theatre is to be created, so I can only guess but I think that it will not see the Atlantic as a seperate theatre since Air and Sea forces do not have the same organisational structure as Land units (in the Game as I have seen it so far).
very interesting thought. i hope we will see a north atlantic theatre because it would suck to have the subs in the western theatre. i'd hand them different orders: west -> defend the french shore atlantic -> sink all their convois 
From what I remember and it's 4 am so yeah, you have a flottila that you assign an area to, and you can keep reserves so you don't have to micromanage your U-Boot fleet in the middle of an epic Eastern front battle, aircraft you assign an area and set a time, or for indefinet assignment, not a lot different from HOI2 other than setting their general attack or defensive stance.
You don't have to put your forces to THE (specific) theater. You couldn't have your forces in every theater anyway, so why wouldn't it be possible to choose?
Also, AFAIK, if you give AI strategic forces (subs, strategic bombers) it will try it's best to use them even if they don't relate to it's main mission.
I think most will have land divisions in all of their theaters. As Germany in 39 you have two theaters, west & east. You think the war will go well if you have zero land forces in one of them?
I think it will a small problem with strategic assets, do they attack military targets near the theater or strategic targets further away?
(1): Well, in most recent DD thread someone quoted Johan and said that it is possible to create theaters, so I was going with that, but I am not exactly sure.
(2): They base at theater's area, so most likely near the theater.
I don't think so, Its been declined many times and there Im pretty sure he replied to something else. (that theaters can be renamed and carry out amfibious assaults)
You don't have to give an objective to your WHOLE theatre, as in above example, I suppose you can have OB West, which under it has an HQ with all subs in them, maybe in corpses of 2-3 subs, which you can give the objective to do a convoy war, same for your aircraft etc etc, I think...
I wonder if you can select a specific area for the sub to hunt convoys while under AI control... Ie of the coast of GB, or in the mid atlantic farther from the patroling ships
There are two schools of thought on that. King said multiple times that Theater HQs can't be created manually, unlike other levels.
It really depends though on whether the AI at theater level thinks differently than at lower levels. Perhaps you could create a Corps HQ and assign ships to that. But it's more likely that the only level able to handle this kind of thing effectively is the Theater.
It would be better if Theater AIs had more options available to them than the other levels, so you could actually tell a Theater to concentrate on naval operations exclusively.
EDIT: BTW, I noticed recently that after the DD on Theater AIs people started using "Theater AI" as a synonym for every AI level. I'm not even sure if the OP is just asking about Theaters proper, or AI-controlled formations in general.
There are 4 levels, after all :wacko: And the Theater (an area on the map) is not self-identical with an AI-controlled Theater HQ (a unit).
4 levels? Are you saying that you can put ships and planes along with infantry in a hierarchic level? That would merely be a small theatre without the notion of geographic unity.
From 1936 Germany has 4 theaters... North (Scandinavia), East (Poland and CZ - later USSR), South (Austria - Later Italy if they don't ally, remember in 1936 the alliance with Italy was in no way certain), West (France - later Britain if possible).
The first change is when UK enters to the WWII in Sep. 1939... Then a new theater should open = Atlantic (Blokade of Britain - later aimed at possibly invading America).
When Italy fucks up in Africa then the theater Africa (North Africa - later split into Southern Africa and Middle East if succesful) should open.
When Italy does it again in Yugoslavia (sorry to the Italians, love your country, but it didn't exactly go to plan..) then a Balkan (Yugoslavia - on to Romania and Greece and countries between depending on alliances ofc) theater opens.
So at this time you have North, East, Balkan, Afrika, South, West and Atlantic.
"North" at this time should be in Oslo, Norway (2), East is waiting for Barbarossa in Königsberg (4), "Balkan" is moving into Yugoslavia (5), "Afrika" is fighting in North Afrika (3), "South" is in Vienna, Austria (1), "West" is in Paris, France (3) and "Atlantic" is stationed in Brest, France (0)
0-5 = army strength (no comparesent other than what is more important than others)
Merging West and Atlantic is possible, but since their focus is very different (West = France and Britain, Atlantic = the Ocean and America) then i think they should be 2... For example what would the Amerika-Bomber have to do with the V-1 and V-2 firing at London...
If spain goes allied = an Iberain theater..
Since I'm too lazy to read through all the posts, I don't know if this has been said, but anyways.
I think that the HQ unit is a land unit, right? So, you just build that HQ and assign it a shitload of planes and subs... you got your theatre...
Cheers,
Nick
PS: Otherwise, just make a very small theatre... just one inf division and u got your theatre again.
I think that the HQ unit is a land unit, right? So, you just build that HQ and assign it a shitload of planes and subs... you got your theatre...
Cheers,
Nick
PS: Otherwise, just make a very small theatre... just one inf division and u got your theatre again.