[Sub-Mod Idea] Remove India (+ other areas?)

[zeress]

With the release of 3.0.0 I did a more extensive testing of the speed of the game and there's definitely a minor speed drop compared to pre-RoI speeds (about 3.8%). Personally I've felt India was an unnecessary addition and I thought of the idea of making a sub-mod removing it (and possibly other unneeded areas, as determined by discussion here). Amongst other things, it should by all means improve the game's speed for those on the lower end of the bracket as Paradox included many speed improvements to the game that aren't obvious with India still around.

Any thoughts on the matter?

I'd like to point out that this is an un-official sub-mod ran by me, and is not something to be taken as an official statement for the development of CK2+.

Current Plans:

• Remove RoI content up-to, but not including Afghanistan and Baluchistan
• Remove Sub-Saharan Africa

Current Proposal:

UPDATE: I have released the sub-mod, see here: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-Sub-Mod-CK2-mini-Remove-those-unneeded-areas!

 

[daniloy]

Iam okay with it but I would like to leave Eastern Persia and Afganistian in it , if that is possible.

 

[zeress]

They make more sense I agree. I found the pre-RoI map cut of either a tad bit too far east, or a tad bit too far west depending on which way you'd want to go

Something like this

 

[daniloy]

Sounds about good on eastern persia and afganistan not sure about central asia.

 

[zeress]

I honestly don't remember what was and wasn't there before. I know a lot of it was also just bloated sizewise eastward, adding to the confusion.

 

[daniloy]

While Transoxania is important I would cut the east most areas , they were not particular important
for either russia and the middle east with the expection of the mongols.Most areas were inhabited by
minor tribes who didnt interact much with the west.

It also would make the map look in a better shape.

 

[zeress]

This is what I have for cuts thus far.

 

[katzen-kratzen]

I'd definitely use it. Not a fan of India addition myself, slows down the game even on good specs.

 

[zeress]

I'll be putting up an actual thread with it very soon since there seems to be no further additions.

EDIT: Here it is: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-Sub-Mod-CK2-mini-Remove-those-unneeded-areas!

 

[Darky]

I agree that removing India is a good idea, but why did you decide to remove part of Africa, which was quite interesting in CK2+ for example?

 

[zeress]

That part of Africa rarely, if ever, interacts with anything outside of itself. It's def. higher on the chopping block for cuts in terms of an efficiency mod. Either way should move discussion to the actual mod thread: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-Sub-Mod-CK2-mini-Remove-those-unneeded-areas!

 

[Truchses]

Ever since CK1 I thought that Ethiopia/Nubia and Canaries should never have been added.

Nubia served only as an early conquest target, not even added to Egypt but rather to Tunis. I would (and intend, but this will take a while) cut and blur anything beyond Assuan.

As far as I know the knowledge about Ethiopia was mythical at best. It has no value for an Euro-centristic game in this timeframe. It would be better implemented as it's own scenario but with its own surrounding region region (Nubia, Egypt, Arabia, Yemen, Oman, Somalia, ev. Sudan) instead of Europe.

The Canaries: Even if there were connections to the continent, and even if they were Muslim, I don't see any importance for them before the time of exploration. They only could unrealistically conquer provinces and become a power factor.

The Sahara and Saudi-Arabia for their vast desert territory have much potential to be contracted. I wouldn't completely remove them for them serving as backwater provinces, from which wealth (for trade routes) and troops (levies and nomads) can be drawn.

Turkestan and ev. Mongolia: For the same reason the Steppe reason could rather be expanded. The provinces of the former Persian empire should very well be included, with the Hindukush. Also considering all the influx of Turkic and later Mongolian tripes there should be some operational territory in the steppe region, at best but not necessarily reaching eastward to Mongolia.

 

[Rylock]

I think zeress already said this in the post right above yours:

Either way should move discussion to the actual mod thread: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-Sub-Mod-CK2-mini-Remove-those-unneeded-areas!

Move discussion there, please.