Stupid question about on-map training

[Secret Master]

I have a stupid question regarding on map training.

Can a division conduct on map training anywhere on the map? Or is it restricted to cores connected by land to the capital?

I'm asking, because I want to know if I can train USMC divisions in places like Hawaii and the Philippines. Or Soviet divisions in Mongolia while manning the border with Japan.

 

[LordOfWar16]

You can train them whereever you are able to supply them with replacement equipment. You can only deploy new troops in cored home-territory of course, but nothing stops you from shipping them somewhere and letting them train there. The question is of course if you want your frontline troops in active training before a potential war, since they could lack some equipment when the shooting starts.

 

[Nelfe]

The question is of course if you want your frontline troops in active training before a potential war, since they could lack some equipment when the shooting starts.

Do you lose so much manpower and equipment while training ?

 

[Streydeymn]

Do you lose so much manpower and equipment while training ?

IIRC you loose only equipment(6%), not manpower.

 

[Hunter XLR8]

You can train them whereever you are able to supply them with replacement equipment. You can only deploy new troops in cored home-territory of course, but nothing stops you from shipping them somewhere and letting them train there. The question is of course if you want your frontline troops in active training before a potential war, since they could lack some equipment when the shooting starts.

Is that true for colonial units as well? If France trained up a Foreign Legion unit they would have to deploy in metropolitan France rather than Algeria?

 

[Frosted Vert]

The recruit depots for the Legion even today are in metropolitan France. Goumiers and other colonial troops however, I can see your point.

 

[Hunter XLR8]

The recruit depots for the Legion even today are in metropolitan France. Goumiers and other colonial troops however, I can see your point.

But prior to the Algerian War their headquarters and major training facilities were in Algeria and at least in the 19th century they were not allowed to be deployed in metropolitan France during peace time.

 

[Secret Master]

You can train them whereever you are able to supply them with replacement equipment. You can only deploy new troops in cored home-territory of course, but nothing stops you from shipping them somewhere and letting them train there. The question is of course if you want your frontline troops in active training before a potential war, since they could lack some equipment when the shooting starts.

That makes sense. I was worried that I'd not be able to train my troops garrisoning important places overseas.

Now I can acclimatize my troops in Singapore and not have them be unprepared when the IJA shows up.

 

[Frosted Vert]

But prior to the Algerian War their headquarters and major training facilities were in Algeria and at least in the 19th century they were not allowed to be deployed in metropolitan France during peace time.

That's a very good point. The cadre was in Algeria but the equipment came from France. Perhaps being able to form 'shell' divisions, where manpower is present but equipment must be shipped to the colony?

 

[LordOfWar16]

Do you lose so much manpower and equipment while training ?

Training causes 6% equipment attrition (not manpower) at the moment. Before the start of a major war you might not wanna take those losses if you dont already got a strong industrial base and alot of equipment stockpiled.

Is that true for colonial units as well? If France trained up a Foreign Legion unit they would have to deploy in metropolitan France rather than Algeria?

yes. france and the uk start with colonial divisions tho, but newly trained ones still have to be deployed in france.

 

[agentgb]

Don't you avoid equipment attrition if you train them before deployng them? (plopping them on the map) i think it was in the week before last www.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Don't you avoid equipment attrition if you train them before deployng them? (plopping them on the map) i think it was in the week before last www.

off-map training only increases their level from green to trained. On-map training increases it by another level from trained to regular, but for the other experience levels you have to do actual combat.

Green divisions have a -50% combat penalty
Trained divisions have a -25% combat penalty
Regular divisions have a 0% combat penalty
Seasoned divisions have a 25% combat bonus
Veteran divisions have a 50% combat bonus.

If you deploy them without off-map training you will of course suffer from the equipment attrition from green to trained if you train them, which you can avoid by the off-map training, correct. Or you throw them into combat right away and let them train (and die) real fast. That would be the "survival of the fittest" "training".

 

[agentgb]

@LordOfWar16 thanks! alot of lives, time & effort will be saved because of this vital information, need to soak up as much info before my looming MP game,

 

[Axe99]

Secret Master - I can't imagine you asking a stupid question unless you were under the influence of a lot of mind altering substances . Cheers for the question, and answers Lord of War .

 

[Nicolas I]

But prior to the Algerian War their headquarters and major training facilities were in Algeria and at least in the 19th century they were not allowed to be deployed in metropolitan France during peace time.

The place name is Sidi Bel Abbès, it was a garrison city and one of the main Légion Étrangère headquarters from 1854 to 1962.