stubborn enemy

[The Swert]

So my vassal declares war on the neighbouring kingdom, in fear of losing the vassal I agree to fight with the hope of picking up that 1 province I have a claim on. Years later I've taken all the core provinces of the king's demesne with only those on the other side of Europe left (why are CK's kingdoms so screwed?), I have a warscore of over 200 and can easily take the province with is worth 26. Let's try a peace deal, nope they won't give it to me, they probably have some armies defending their last two provinces. Time for an expedition, I send some troops over to the distant lands and find them stacked with armies, over 15,000. There's no way my little duchy could take them out so I fall back. I offer all sorts of peace deals, even ones where i drop my claims completely and become their vassal of about -1900 warscore value and the King still says no. I can understand his stubborness to some degree, yes he has the larger armies and many vassals to draw upon if needed but he's not doing anything. His armies are half a world away and he's just letting his provinces be controlled by me. I can't make peace so it looks like this war is going to go forever. This game has terrible peace negotiation.

Also shouldn't there be some events that allow you to usurp a claim if you hold onto the majority of the title's provinces for long enough? That King holds the Duke of Moray but I hold 2 of the 3 provinces, I went to usurp it and it cost a ridiculous 1000 prestige just for a claim on the duchy. That's a bit harse considering my duke only has 200 prestige to play with.

It seems the only real way to expand is through inheritance.

 

[Nick B II]

The CK AI can be very stupid. Spam with offers of white peace or your entire treasury if you really want to end the war. In these situations it also seems to help if you start conquering the enemy's vassals.

Just usurp the title. You'll have negative prestige for awhile but that's not the end of the world.

If you don't mind gamey behavior disband all your armies and then do a save/re-load. Any regiment active when you load a game has it's morale set to zero (bug), so even a few hundred troops should be able to beat those 15,000.

Note that if you do this after you usurp Moray you'll get huge warscore. That means lots of prestige in the peace deal.

Another cheatey alternative is type F12. You'll get the cheatscreen. Type Byzantine, hit "enter," now the enemy has to agree to any proposal you make. When he's accepted your proposal you type byzantine and hit enter again, and every-thing's back to normal.

Nick

 

[unmerged(75409)]

Try getting some gold, only like 4-10 or so. Offer all of it along with peace. Sometimes the AI will think "oh he's offering me all his gold, this is good" and accept even though the actual sum is just a pittance. Note though that this only works if you have any gold > 0.

 

[The Swert]

Yeh I had to use the cheat. The AI appears to be more lenient with other AI but not me. Offering gold or titles just didn't work. I couldn't usurp any more of his titles either. I like the way it works with non-christians, if you capture a province you get a claim on it, makes more sense to me.

 

[DarthJF]

I always use cheats in those kind of situations. If my enemy has few provinces on the other side of the continent, then it shouldn't be any factor in peace deals if I have them otherwise in my control and there's no chance they could offer me any kind of resistance on the lands I occupy. I also use it to make white peace if my vassals declare war against some far away realms.

I do refrain myself from asking any money or anything more than single count title in cheated peace deals however.

 

[unmerged(81763)]

The best way to get the AI to buckle is to destroy all of his regiments...while it's tempting to seige and take provinces it's hard if they're far away.

Plus the best way to overcome a much stronger adversary is to destory his armies piecemeal. Great strategy for disjointed kingdoms.

 

[The Swert]

Well this game just keeps making gameplay unbelievably frustrating.

So here I am minding my own business when the Duchy of Deheubarth breaks away from my allies the Kingdom of Wales. Naturally, as the Duchy is doomed I decided to join the fight to claim such cheap land or gold. However as soon I chose to honour the alliance a message pops up saying that the Kingdom of Wales has decided war on me. Apparently the Duchy of Deheubarth was still a vassal of Wales or something, so I ended up at war with my ally.
Anyway after a few years, with the help from fellow combatants Scotland and Germany, we tear up Wales except for their last province Dorset which they once again stack with all their forces. They won't accept peace and I'm basically stuck in the same position I was before.

This game hates me