Stubborn AI, what gives?

[unmerged(103720)]

Here's the deal: I was playing as Rome, owning the faces off of Carthage. I had seized their two provinces they had in Italy, all of their islands, and six of their mainland territories. I had also been annihilating just about every army and navy they had, adding up to a 67% warscore in my favor. When I started to get low on manpower, I asked for their islands, valued at about 45% warscore. They declined. I then asked for their two Italian provinces (25%). No dice. I asked for one island (10%). Nope. Finally, I asked for ONE gold coming up to a grand total of 1% score. THEY REFUSED! So, my economy ended up getting so totalled I accepted one of their many White Peace offers. WHAT DO I DO TO GAIN STUFF FROM SUPERPOWERS?

 

[Starforge]

Here's the deal: I was playing as Rome, owning the faces off of Carthage. I had seized their two provinces they had in Italy, all of their islands, and six of their mainland territories. I had also been annihilating just about every army and navy they had, adding up to a 67% warscore in my favor. When I started to get low on manpower, I asked for their islands, valued at about 45% warscore. They declined. I then asked for their two Italian provinces (25%). No dice. I asked for one island (10%). Nope. Finally, I asked for ONE gold coming up to a grand total of 1% score. THEY REFUSED! So, my economy ended up getting so totalled I accepted one of their many White Peace offers. WHAT DO I DO TO GAIN STUFF FROM SUPERPOWERS?

There's likely quite a few posts buried down a ways on this subject since the stubbornness has been an issue (IMO) since the release of EU3 which I'm presuming is the core engine running Rome.

Yep, AI is stupidly stubborn.

Ways to help deal with the situation:

1. Reduce the enemy manpower to 0 (can be checked through country comparison.) Better yet - start wars with folks who are already at or near 0 due to other wars or rebellions.

2. Destroy their field armies. Not only do you want to remove thier capacity to reinforce their troops but also remove what they have in the field so that the logic the AI uses to determine whether it can still fight or not is handicapped by a lack of forces.

3. Take the enemy capitol. Self explanatory.

Even given doing these 3 things, the AI still isn't going to give you a "reasonable for the work it took to get it" settlement so you'll have to whittle away at major powers a war at a time. The good news is that usually once you've truly broken a power in one big war - they never really recover all that quickly and certainly not before the truce timer runs out.

 

[Carewolf2]

Here's the deal: I was playing as Rome, owning the faces off of Carthage. I had seized their two provinces they had in Italy, all of their islands, and six of their mainland territories. I had also been annihilating just about every army and navy they had, adding up to a 67% warscore in my favor. When I started to get low on manpower, I asked for their islands, valued at about 45% warscore. They declined. I then asked for their two Italian provinces (25%). No dice. I asked for one island (10%). Nope. Finally, I asked for ONE gold coming up to a grand total of 1% score. THEY REFUSED! So, my economy ended up getting so totalled I accepted one of their many White Peace offers. WHAT DO I DO TO GAIN STUFF FROM SUPERPOWERS?

Yes the AI is stubborn, but since you couldn't afford to keep the war going the AI was doing the right thing by refusing your silly demands. What you need to do is not getting tied up in wars you can't finish, or accept the white peace as soon as you can see you can't possible get more than a tie.