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Spain hereby announces that we have made a deal with the honourable stadtholder of The Netherlands. The deal is as follows:

Kyushu (ID number 688) to Netherlands and Shanghai (ID number 653) to Spain.
 

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Hive said:
Spain hereby announces that we have made a deal with the honourable stadtholder of The Netherlands. The deal is as follows:

Kyushu (ID number 688) to Netherlands and Shanghai (ID number 653) to Spain.
The Stadtholder confirms this treaty on behalf of the dutch republic.
 

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There is two event issues, due to France being braindead in the last session (my fault I know).

1) Commissioning of Versailles (3125) happened, without effect. So unless Versailles Stand in Unearthly Glory (3126) is slept, I will be gaining benefits of Versailles (free FAA, 600 vp and 3 stab) for totally free. So, I suggest we sleep Unearthly Glory (3126) like it would have been slept in Comissioning (3125), if 1500 ducats in not paid then.

2) Chambers of Reunion (3127) happened without effect. This is easy to fix as it's deathdate isn't yet past. Just remove 3127 from happened events.

No other french historical event has it's date on those braindead years.
 

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Jarkko Suvinen said:
Nope, Holland is leading, they offered 300d :)

400 ducats then.
 

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TheArchduke said:
400 ducats then.
Does Holland wish to rise her offer? Or is there possibly somebody else who wants to take part in this (Portugal and England should be interested, right?)?
 

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Another extract from he Holy Book of Facts:

  • Situation in world trade centers.

    Ganges, India:
    England(4) Netherlands(5) Portugal(5) Denmark(4) Arakan(1) Orissa(1)

    Moscow, Eastern Europe:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Russia(4) Denmark(6)

    Astrakhan, Eastern Europe:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Russia(4) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(1)

    Alexandria, North Africa:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Denmark(5) Ethiopia(4)

    Danzig, HRE:
    England(2) Netherlands(4) Poland(5) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(3) Courland(1)

    Liguria, Southern Europe:
    England(3) Austria(6) Netherlands(4) Spain(2) Poland(1) Denmark(3)

    Ile de France, Western Europe:
    England(4) France(1) Austria(4) Netherlands(5) Sweden(1) Denmark(5)

    Sjælland, Scandinavia:
    England(3) Netherlands(5) Sweden(2) Crimea(2) Denmark(6) Brandenburg(2)

    Veneto, Southern Europe:
    England(2) Austria(6) Netherlands(3) Spain(3) Poland(1) Denmark(5)

    Timbuktu, West Africa:
    England(4) Netherlands(5) Portugal(5) Denmark(5)

    Isfahan, Middle East:
    England(3) Netherlands(5) Sweden(2) Ottoman Empire(4) Denmark(5)

    Tlaxcala, Central America:
    England(5) Austria(3) Netherlands(5) Spain(2) Denmark(5)

    Kyushu, Japan:
    England(4) Netherlands(5) Denmark(5) Nippon(1) Korea(5)

    Malacca, Indochina:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Portugal(4) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(1)

    Tago, Southern Europe:
    England(2) Netherlands(5) Portugal(6) Spain(2) Denmark(5)

    Delhi, India:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Denmark(5) Hyderabad(1) Nippon(1) Mughal Empire(2) Bengal(1)

    Mascate, Middle East:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Ottoman Empire(2) Denmark(5) Baluchistan(1) Bengal(1)

    Shanghai, China:
    England(5) Netherlands(6) Denmark(5) Manchu(1)

    Andalusia, Southern Europe:
    England(4) Austria(1) Netherlands(1) Portugal(3) Spain(6) Denmark(5)

    Thrace, Central Europe:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Ottoman Empire(3) Crimea(2) Denmark(5)

    Anglia, British Isles:
    England(6) Netherlands(5) Spain(2) Denmark(5) Eire(1)

    Guangzhou, China:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Portugal(5) Denmark(4) Ayutthaya(1)

    Holland, Western Europe:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Denmark(5) Eire(2) Brandenburg(1) Courland(1)

    Ceram, Indonesia:
    England(5) Netherlands(5) Portugal(1) Sweden(1) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(3)

    Lobito, West Africa:
    England(5) Netherlands(6) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(4)

    Bohemia, Central Europe:
    England(1) Austria(6) Netherlands(4) Spain(3) Denmark(5) Courland(1)

    Svealand, Scandinavia:
    England(1) Netherlands(1) Sweden(6)

    Yukon, North America:
    England(5) Netherlands(4) Spain(4) Denmark(6)

    Onondaga, North America:
    England(6) Netherlands(5) Russia(1) Denmark(5) Brandenburg(3)

    Oahu, Pacific:
    England(3) Netherlands(6) Denmark(5)

    The Falklands, South America:
    England(1) Netherlands(5) Spain(1) Denmark(6)

It appears that competition from the not-so-trade-heavy powers in some key-CoT's would reduce the number of monopolies, which in return would reduce the number of traders, which in return would see the trading profits spread out more evenly. All the not-massively-trading nations should focus their effort in keeping monopolies in check, if the monopoly is not yours (as it is likely) then the loss is yours (because the one who has the monopoly gains an extra trader to compete you).

It should be noted that none of the Ottoman CoT's are under a monopoly of anybod, and that has been achieved without in any way setting artificial limits on how many traders may be in any given CoT. HURRAAH for Free competition (free for those who have payed the license, of course)!

EDIT: Austria under Dago seem to have been a very efficient trader-nation.
 

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Jarkko Suvinen said:
Does Holland wish to rise her offer? Or is there possibly somebody else who wants to take part in this (Portugal and England should be interested, right?)?

Oh, I don´t want to raise the price for poor Holland to 700ducats, after all its only a colony.:D
 

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TheArchduke said:
Oh, I don´t want to raise the price for poor Holland to 700ducats, after all its only a colony.:D
Inded only a colony, but it is strategically well placed :) And it has Taxbase 3, so it is pretty valuable too.

Btw, does Dommolus have ICQ?
 

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Wetboy said:
Holland is indeed weak and poor and the good danish king´s clemency will be remembered.

Weak we can understand, but poor? The Netherlands? I do not want to know what the Stadholder thinks about other countries if the United Provinces are poor in his opinion.
 

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arcorelli said:
Weak we can understand, but poor? The Netherlands? I do not want to know what the Stadholder thinks about other countries if the United Provinces are poor in his opinion.
Does this mean England offers 600d for Palanas? :)
 

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Ok, since nobody else seems interested, Palanas (id 794) is sold to Holland for 500d.

Duke, could you please edit this in?
 

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I didn´t want to raise the price too high.:D Edited in.
 

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We will have to stop earlier this friday, as I have to go to a birthday party at 19:00 CET sharp, which means an hour playing less, sorry guys.
 

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TheArchduke said:
We will have to stop earlier this friday, as I have to go to a birthday party at 19:00 CET sharp, which means an hour playing less, sorry guys.
Okies, that means I can take part in an AoW2:SM game continuing at 19:30 CET :) (presuming it doesn't end for my part already during Thursday evening...)
 

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Would be nice if we could do a earlier start though.
 

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TheArchduke said:
Would be nice if we could do a earlier start though.
Well, I could possible leave work an hour earlier, but I need to know tomorrow so that I can arrange it.
 

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Nah, I think we can do with 3 hours gaming, I guess most guys are at work up to shortly before the session..