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Brief errata. Some of these are relevant things not mentioned, rather than errors per se.
Page 7: Exactly 8 countries, not 5, will be considered "lucky", unless you have chosen not to have lucky nations in the game's starting options.
Page 18: "Press Gangs" reduces the cost of ships, not the time to build them. "Bureaucracy" is pretty marginal, because you can easily get the same or larger bonus from a single Advisor.
Page 20: Province improvements: Tax assessors: How can an inflation modifier effect one province? It effects your country's inflation rate, no? Or am I confused about this? I might be.
Page 27: As of HTTT, tribal governments are no longer a matter of personal preference. If you are a tribal democracy (a form of government common in the Americas and almost unknown outside it) you cannot change to the other tribal governments and vice-versa.
Page 31: Missions may be supposed to make the AI's behaviour more sensible, but that is, alas, far from the reality.
Page 38: The discussion on creating CoTs doesn't mention National Focus
Page 59: Talks about religious tolerance sliders
Page 60: Patron of the Arts no longer gives prestige
Page 70: Colonial range can also be affected by advisors
Page 84: Leaders cost 50d, not 100d
Page 7: Exactly 8 countries, not 5, will be considered "lucky", unless you have chosen not to have lucky nations in the game's starting options.
Page 18: "Press Gangs" reduces the cost of ships, not the time to build them. "Bureaucracy" is pretty marginal, because you can easily get the same or larger bonus from a single Advisor.
Page 20: Province improvements: Tax assessors: How can an inflation modifier effect one province? It effects your country's inflation rate, no? Or am I confused about this? I might be.
Page 27: As of HTTT, tribal governments are no longer a matter of personal preference. If you are a tribal democracy (a form of government common in the Americas and almost unknown outside it) you cannot change to the other tribal governments and vice-versa.
Page 31: Missions may be supposed to make the AI's behaviour more sensible, but that is, alas, far from the reality.
Page 38: The discussion on creating CoTs doesn't mention National Focus
Page 59: Talks about religious tolerance sliders
Page 60: Patron of the Arts no longer gives prestige
Page 70: Colonial range can also be affected by advisors
Page 84: Leaders cost 50d, not 100d
It would be great if manuals and guides were updated and corrected with time like AGEod does.
The inflation modifier is -50% * # of assessors/# of provinces. Thus, you need assessors in every province to get 50% inflation reduction, and the individual impact of a tax assessor lessens with the size of your emprire.
I wouldn't put that in a guide
Page 85: Cavalry doesn't take part in assaults, so no, they will not "die like horse flies". Minor detail: Forts have always increased supply limit. Regimental camps have never had this function to the best of my knowledge.
Next time you guys decide to produce a strategy guide, please do what you did last time and get some people from the MP community to put it together, or at least have them co-author it.
Next time you guys decide to produce a strategy guide, please do what you did last time and get some people from the MP community to put it together, or at least have them co-author it.
Slargos, respectfully, the guide is not written for those few people who know EU III intimitely, backwards and forwards, as I'm sure you do.
The guide is written for those 99% of players who "play" the game, rather than studying it, and it's helpful for those people!
I did study the game, very carefully, but obviously I missed a few things as anyone will. If we can compile a list, here, of those things, I'll include it in a list of errata which people can download from the Forum.
Rensslaer
The guide is written for those 99% of players who "play" the game, rather than studying it, and it's helpful for those people!
I did study the game, very carefully, but obviously I missed a few things as anyone will. If we can compile a list, here, of those things, I'll include it in a list of errata which people can download from the Forum.
Rensslaer
Next time, Rensslaer, please hammer finishing nails into your forehead before submitting anything. It'll give you an advance warning of what is to come
Hardly. My pet peeve, however, is people who come to the forums with wrong answers, and when you deliver an official strategy guide filled to the brim with them, boy, you'd better be ready for pain.
Loads and loads of pain.
The guide is written for those 99% of players who "play" the game, rather than studying it, and it's helpful for those people!
I bet it would be even more helpful if it didn't supply poor advice in large quantities.
I think you underestimate the players aswell..
Don't worry, I'm almost done lambasting you.
However, I would like to point out that several of the errors made in the guide were never true in any version of the game, so you can't hide behind the excuse that this is a rewrite of an old guide that you did up during HTTT development.
I will be the vengeful striking hammer of nitpicking.
If only to show that they need to bring in people who genuinely love the game to write strategy guides, not just people who are conveniently situated.
Bring the rain.
However, I would like to point out that several of the errors made in the guide were never true in any version of the game, so you can't hide behind the excuse that this is a rewrite of an old guide that you did up during HTTT development.
Unless it was true during HTTT development and later changed.
Be nice - it's not nearly as bad as you're letting on. It's not like it suggests to start your first game as Avignon and immediately DoW France, Castille, and Burgundy on day 1.
Unless a lot of completely irrational changes were made just to screw with him, I don't think he gets away with this one.
But yes, I can't think of any errors that are game-breaking in nature. However, quite a few of them turn guide into misdirection. And considering I haven't even actually read the thing, only browsed through it, I've either got an extremely keen eye or it's just the tip of the iceberg. We shall see.
I have Darkrenown for that.
Renss
So I guess I can add another name on my list of people to visit with the mob and the pitchforks and the torches.
Slargos, respectfully, the guide is not written for those few people who know EU III intimitely, backwards and forwards, as I'm sure you do.
The guide is written for those 99% of players who "play" the game, rather than studying it, and it's helpful for those people!
I did study the game, very carefully, but obviously I missed a few things as anyone will. If we can compile a list, here, of those things, I'll include it in a list of errata which people can download from the Forum.
Rensslaer
from p. 85 "Usually you won't want to pursue the wastful process of Assaulting a fort with troops - especially if you have cavalry in your force, because they'll die like horseflies."
You studied the game carefully but never noticed that cavalry don't participate in assaults? I don't mean to be crass, but give me a break, this is pretty basic and obvious to anyone who's played the game even a couple times, much less 'studied the game carefully'.
This and other mistakes that people have pointed out make the usefulness of this guide questionable at best. I would venture to say that these mistakes are more harmful to those that play the game casually, as they aren't able to recognize them like the people who play the game a lot. A guide to EU3 should illuminate the parts of the game that normally would require someone asking on the forums to get an answer. It should not confuse people over things that you can plainly see for yourself just playing the game.
Sorry if this seems rather harsh, but this is an official guide, and given the amount of misinformation present I feel sorry for anyone who spent $24.90 to actually buy this in paperback. Or, for that matter, downloaded it and wasted their time reading it.
A kinder explanation would be that Rensslaer meant don't assault with a cav-heavy army and expect success. It should have been written differently, yes, but I think you are being far too harsh.
Yes, that half-sentence should have been removed, and I missed it during re-edit. It dates back to the original EU III Collector's Edition guide, which was produced before EU III was even finished.
I don't remember for sure if this was true in an early release version or not, but at the time I wrote it cavalry could participate in assaults once the walls were breached.
But whether it was true in a release version or not, that page and the page after discuss Assault tactics in great detail, and at the end you're not left with the impression that cavalry have any role in assaulting beyond protecting from siege-breaking attempts.
The erroneous offhand comment about cavalry in assaults is specifically contradicted on the next page, in langauge that's far more clear about the details of assaults.
No one is going to send their cavalry to assault based on that one line in the text.
You guys are nitpicking, and it unfairly discredits the overall value of the guide which many people will vouch for. I played EU III virtually every day for more than 2 years, and the information in the guide includes alot of what I learned during that time.
Thousands of players learned to play with my original guide, which was very popular, and hundreds more learned how to play even better by reading my AAR.
Naturally, different players find different ways of playing, and have differences of opinion which can fill pages, but a few minor errors (which are still correctable on an errata page) don't ruin the value of the whole strategy guide.
Rensslaer
Rensslaer, thanks for putting in who knows how much time to produce your guide. I find it to be a great resource for the game, whether there are a few minor errors or not. Given the numerous iterations and somewhat opaque mechanics surrounding Paradox games, I'm sure this was no easy task.
I hope that you can continue to update it in the future, perhaps as a living doc in it's electronic form. Personally, I think a simple addendum works just fine for any corrections that need to be made.
Also, the historical anecdotes are great. There's so much contained in there to bring into context the historical period that it covers. Keep up the good work! Much appreciated.
For the folks who are IMO being overly critical (if not egotistical), I'd simply suggest you write your own strategy guide so that we can all be enlightened to the truths of this great game.
I hope that you can continue to update it in the future, perhaps as a living doc in it's electronic form. Personally, I think a simple addendum works just fine for any corrections that need to be made.
Also, the historical anecdotes are great. There's so much contained in there to bring into context the historical period that it covers. Keep up the good work! Much appreciated.
For the folks who are IMO being overly critical (if not egotistical), I'd simply suggest you write your own strategy guide so that we can all be enlightened to the truths of this great game.