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Another way do the trick is to DoW Spain or Portugal, win some naval battle and hopefuly steal their maps. Or try to share your maps with the most people you can.
 

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When you annex Denmark, you get Iceland. Stop by there and you won't suffer any attrition. Just don't leave any troops there in the winter, since they'll freeze to death or something. The AI is always slow in colonizing NA so you can usually get some good colonies in the caribbean and Manhattan/Delaware/Roanoke. Gives you money and possibility to create the United States of Swedish America...
 

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Colonizing North America is usually my top priroity, but with 1 colonist/year, it's a bit tough. The SPanyards and the English colonize this area so intensively that in my last game with France it took me 300 years to eradicate their presence from NA :)
 

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Originally posted by viper37
Colonizing North America is usually my top priroity, but with 1 colonist/year, it's a bit tough. The SPanyards and the English colonize this area so intensively that in my last game with France it took me 300 years to eradicate their presence from NA :)
I hate all of those TP's... Why not just build nice, developed (unfortified) cities for me to take...?

Sweden sucks as a colonizing power, although they get colonial dynamism and wharfs later in the game, when there's still some unclaimed land in SE Asia...
 

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Originally posted by PatMaster
They dont get colonial dynamism Lucidor.
I got it...

OK, I realize I played the game on random/historical events... I have a distinct feeling I got it, but as to why I dare not speculate.

Any wiser, PatMaster?
 

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How early in the game should I try to annex Denmark and how? By force or diplomacy? In my games I always have to fight both Denmark and Russia (damn alliance!), it doesn´t mather if we have a Royal marriage or not (they just don´t like me :mad: )
Can someone give me some tips on how I can try to avoid this two-front war?
 

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Originally posted by Sir Lancelot
How early in the game should I try to annex Denmark and how? By force or diplomacy? In my games I always have to fight both Denmark and Russia (damn alliance!), it doesn´t mather if we have a Royal marriage or not (they just don´t like me :mad: )
Can someone give me some tips on how I can try to avoid this two-front war?

Annex Russia first with P-L.
I played a game yesterday when I did it with a 25k army.
They just had a war with P-L and their army was at 6k :D.

It is impossible to diploannex denmark, and it shouldnt be to difficult annexing them within 2 or 3 wars.
Another thing, as Sweden, it is going to be you against the whole world, dont put to much in to alliances.
 

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Originally posted by PatMaster


Annex Russia first with P-L.
I played a game yesterday when I did it with a 25k army.
They just had a war with P-L and their army was at 6k :D.

It is impossible to diploannex denmark, and it shouldnt be to difficult annexing them within 2 or 3 wars.
Another thing, as Sweden, it is going to be you against the whole world, dont put to much in to alliances.

Thanks PatMaster!
But can I annex Russia in the Grand Campaign?
 
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Originally posted by PatMaster

Another thing, as Sweden, it is going to be you against the whole world, dont put to much in to alliances.
Gasp !
I started an IGC with free lowlands. I just annexed Denmark + Norway in a few year. I allied myself with the lowlands. Soon after that Austria and Spain DoW lowlands (they were in 2 distinct alliances). I helped them, and gained spanish knowledge of the new world :). Bur just as the war in lowland seemed to be won, France and England DoW me. I'm quite sure that if I require assistance the Dutch won't help me, but I don't know. Damn. No protestant except lowland accepted an alliance with me yet (I think I'm in 1540) and I just didn't want to ally with these stupid catho...
 

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I realize that I still have much to learn ......
In my last GC I started an early war against Denmark (allied with Russia and Pskov. I took Skåne and Jämtland from Denmark and tried to make peace but they rejected a couple of times. Then the front at Karelia fell (damn them horsmen from Pskov and then both Russia and Pskov was eating my territorium. Denmark send reinforcements from Jylland and took Skåne back. I had to make peace with Russia and had to give away both Savolks and Karelia. Tried to make peace with Pskov both it was no use. I had no other choice than make peace with Denmark.....and got absolutly nothing!!!
Am I a newbie or what?!:D
 
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Maybe I was more lucky, but I DoW Denmark on January the 1st of 1492, so they weren't allied with Russia at the moment. That helps a lot. But now I'm at war with both France and England and I think I will loose some territories to them. I hope I can have peace only for some gold, I will give me some time to reinforce later, but now, even Holstein has enough troops to invade me, and they're allied with England. The free Norway also helped me a lot (maybe too much, if I were to play another game with Sweden I won't take this option). Bur Sir Lancelot : Don't give up, this game is more interesting when things don't go as you wish.
 

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You are right astafyr, but it´s a bit frustrating when I constantly get bashed by the danish alliance in my quest to conquer the Baltic...
although I ahve some better results in other tries in the GC.
I think we need a thread were we can discuss and analyze each othters misstakes and sharpen our tacticts through thoose misstakes...At least i would!:)
 

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Originally posted by PatMaster


It is impossible to diploannex denmark, and it shouldnt be to difficult annexing them within 2 or 3 wars.

Playing IGC 2.2 I just took them out in two wars (annexed them around 1510-15?). I play with the "Free Norway"-option (I like to see a free Norway :D) and took Jämtland and Narvik from them. They were not allied with Russia, but with England.


Another thing, as Sweden, it is going to be you against the whole world, dont put to much in to alliances.

Alliances are good for diplo-annexing
:D - I have da-ed Hansa and have Hannover, Pommern and Brandenburg as vassals allready...
 

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Originally posted by Lucidor

Annex the HL and the TO. You can afford that BB hit, and you get a lot of funding from taking two CoT. Novgorod should also be a priority target...

I took Kurland from Denmark (they had just won a war agains TO when i annexed them :)), diplo-annexed Hansa and just took Novgorod in my secons Russian war (1560-ish). Add my CoT in Jalisco covering most of America (only CoT in the new world) and I have a nice little trading operation going (Trade Company event gives me 11 traders a year)
 

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Originally posted by PatMaster
They dont get colonial dynamism Lucidor.

I wonder why so many of you are certain about this?
I've had Colonial dynamism every game (5 so far) playing Sweden (GC).
Usually somewhere 'round 1650. 3 settlers per year (Wharf, protestant and dynamism). NA is quite easy to colonize for Sweden, if you don't spend all your money on warfare in the beginning of the game I think.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I always get knowledge of the Nova Scotia area without too much effort quite early.

Anyway, this is my first post, I've been watching the forum for about 2 months, and it seems to be a good atmosphere here. Looking forward to some interesting discussions.