Strategy For Naples (1.24)

[General Howe]

I managed to win this in the peace deal with Aragon. What should I work on doing next? I want to form Italy at some point.

 

[jdavis86]

Papal States, Aragon, and Venice are priority targets before Shadow Kingdom fires. Make sure you have enough galleys to challenge anyone.

If Provence is no longer allied with France, could make a grab for their CoT. Though that means having an angry France the rest of the game.

 

[Shinkuro Yukinari]

Big P is not in HRE, so that's peachy

 

[General Howe]

And what Ideas should I go for?

 

[alphabetagamma]

You could also try to take Ragusa if the Ottos get into a war with Serbia/Bosnia and stop guaranteeing them. It's a nice CoT in a node that you can steer into Genoa. Otherwise, as others have said, slow expansion northward is good. Just watch out for AE, like in all Italian games. Another option could be attacking Tunis and maybe releasing Tripoli as a vassal, since you'll be able to steer from Tunis to Genoa and weakening a common Ottoman ally.

Edit: just saw your ideas post. In my 1.22 Naples -> Italy run I went Diplo -> Admin -> Influence, but I would switch Diplo and Influence. You should still be fighting easy wars, so you should focus on reducing AE and coring cost, since Italy has so many high dev provinces.

 

[General Howe]

You could also try to take Ragusa if the Ottos get into a war with Serbia/Bosnia and stop guaranteeing them.

I think Venice will annex them for me. (Idk how this happened)

 

[True_Heir_of_Rome]

Last time I played Naples I took Exploration for my third idea group. You are surrounded by powerful countries and you're going to be hurting for consistent expansion soon.

 

[jdavis86]

In terms of ideas, it depends how you want to play. Naples can do a lot of things well, especially playing tall.

You want an early Italy so most folks would advise influence, admin/innov, defensive. If you can get a CB on Tlemcen or Fezzan, vassalize one and feed it Africa.

 

[Bouchart]

The Balkans is usually a good move. If you don't take it the Ottomans will. At least get Dalmatia for the center of trade. I don't remember but I think Naples starts in the Genoa node so you can transfer trade out of Ragusa. Venice tends to get dogpiled by Austria and the Ottomans at some point.

Typically expanding into North Africa is a bad move early on since it's all Sunni and has high coring costs, but you might be in a good position to take Tunis (the province) which is another center of trade.

 

[YuriiH]

Personally, I wouldn't take Sicily in your independence war, because your core provinces will give full AE without reconquest Casus Beli.
Instead I would take Malta + Iberian foothold (e.g. Valencia and Barcelona, or simply border provinces with France to isolate the remains of Aragon) and release Catalonia there to get even more low-AE development later.
Also, another way is to join HRE and eat everyone there

And, of course, asap Tunis Trade Centre State before they ally the Ottomans.
And later every other Muslim TC State in Africa to avoid Ottomans who tend to ally Muslim Power there.

 

[Rocketskates]

popeman and tunis, anyone not allied with a powerful nation without stepping on someones toe, you got options, id go full military and muscle my way to become italy, maybe the roman empire

 

[cliffo]

No CB war on someone isolated in North Africa is a useful gambit to allow some pain free reconquest wars is a useful addition to the obvious route (opportunistic wars in Italy and using France to continue to beat down Aragon et al)

 

[makaramus]

strategies:
optional:You can join hre

Dominate mediterrian sea:
Conquer bosnia and serbia and provence(when they no longer ally france). conquer or vassalize tunis and conquer egypt after that.

adviced religion: Reformed, if you stay catholic papal states hates you if they somehow survive.
İdea picks:innovative+quality(Italian space marines)+trade. humanist if you dont want to convert muslims

Colonial empire:
Conquer north africa entirely! Start colonizing america and south africa while preparing to defeat spain.

Adviced religion: Protestant. Again pope hates you if he survive.

İdeas: defensive+admin+exploration+religius or humanist

Holy roman emperor game:
Now... this is intresting strategy ITS YOU gonna prevent shadow kingdom Wich is difficult
yet emperor doesnt get negative modifiers of shadow kingdom if not prevented so its not must be

Religion:Catholic or Protestantick most common one in hre

ideas: Diplomatic ideas,innovative ideas,inf ideas, quality ideas.