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You haven't played genoa have you
. It gets a bunch of missions to conquer a few important trade provinces that give (or at least used to, don't know if they've changed) 10 (yes 10) mercantilism upon success.
Is now 2. No idea since when.You haven't played genoa have you
That said 2 is still better than any other so get Genoa, be a true catholic so you can spend all those papal influence points in mercantilism, colonize so you hopefully get the mercantilism events from your CNs and pray to whatever gods you believe in...?
That is a depressing and boring change, 10 made it something special, 2 is good but not something I'm massively excited about.
My suggestion now is mod back the 10 mercantilism missions and pretend your playing ironman
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This line might do that:
Depends on whether the_staple_port is lost on conquest by another nation (probably isn't).
You haven't played genoa have you
The wiki is wrong on that in the achievement requirements section.
What's more, it turns out that it's not quite that simple anyway. I am now in fact playing Corsica (I had researched this via the wiki before posting and already started a game - when I ask a question, I typically know all the boring, stable non-answers already). So I took Constantinople. This was a mistake because I did not *yet* have a mission to take it. I was thinking it would be like with Byzantium wherein you can do something without having the mission handy and you get to take it as a decision. Thus far that hasn't been the case, but we'll see.
Either way, the math does not work for protected market for Genoa or any other country without a huge amount of luck getting +x mercantilism events to choose from. This seems somewhat luck based and I was hopeful that there might be a solid approach. I figured I'd play them to get trade hegemony the hard way (the trivial way would be to use the Ottos and westernize) and see if I happen to get enough freebie mercantilism buffs to hit the protected market one.
Either way, Genoa's kind of fun and since it's Lombard it can form Italy (wiki doesn't bother pointing this out and, as with the usual bias, only suggests the countries that people seemed to think were good choices instead of all the nations that qualify), so if I don't manage to pull off trade hegemon and protected markets isn't in the cards I can just hit the form italy button and have that achievement anyway.
One option that I did notice, btw, is to save up a ton of papal influence and buy mercantilism - only need about 5400 papal influence ...
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Would have to be since 1.8, I got it just before the patch it with Genoa this way.
Couple of things:
I've no idea what the wiki says on the matter, all I know is that I played genoa ages ago and got missions to get 10 mercantilism, I play with mods so have barely any achievements.
I'm sorry my answer was a 'boring stable non-answer'.
This is the one of the mission files (only the province in question changes):
Note in the effect section there is no equivalent to "set_country_flag 'has owned this province'" In other words you can take this mission again and again (I've just tested it (not ironman but that shouldn't matter), it is somewhat luck based (whether or not you get the mission) but as the mission file shows you you can influence the likelihood of getting that mission. There are 7 of these in total each giving 2 mercantilism. You start with 25 mercantilism, so you only need to do the missions 38 times, i.e about 5 times per mission, not exactly fun but the math does work
I've no idea what the wiki says on the matter, all I know is that I played genoa ages ago and got missions to get 10 mercantilism, I play with mods so have barely any achievements.
I'm sorry my answer was a 'boring stable non-answer'
.This is the one of the mission files (only the province in question changes):
tradenode_tunis = {
type = country
category = MIL
ai_mission = yes
allow = {
tag = GEN
government = merchant_republic
is_subject = no
NOT = {
owns = 341 # Tunis
}
}
abort = {
is_subject = yes
}
success = {
owns = 341 # Tunis
}
chance = {
factor = 1000
modifier = {
factor = 2
mil = 4
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.5
341 = {
owner = {
army_size = GEN
}
}
}
}
immediate = {
add_claim = 341
}
abort_effect = {
remove_claim = 341
}
effect = {
add_mercantilism = 0.02
}
}
type = country
category = MIL
ai_mission = yes
allow = {
tag = GEN
government = merchant_republic
is_subject = no
NOT = {
owns = 341 # Tunis
}
}
abort = {
is_subject = yes
}
success = {
owns = 341 # Tunis
}
chance = {
factor = 1000
modifier = {
factor = 2
mil = 4
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.5
341 = {
owner = {
army_size = GEN
}
}
}
}
immediate = {
add_claim = 341
}
abort_effect = {
remove_claim = 341
}
effect = {
add_mercantilism = 0.02
}
}
Note in the effect section there is no equivalent to "set_country_flag 'has owned this province'" In other words you can take this mission again and again (I've just tested it (not ironman but that shouldn't matter), it is somewhat luck based (whether or not you get the mission) but as the mission file shows you you can influence the likelihood of getting that mission. There are 7 of these in total each giving 2 mercantilism. You start with 25 mercantilism, so you only need to do the missions 38 times, i.e about 5 times per mission, not exactly fun but the math does work
Japan has a number of events that increase mercantilism, as does being a republic.
Additionally, province modifiers do disappear when they change owners so you could play as England and keep releasing a vassal with Calais, annexing them then re-designating it.
Additionally, province modifiers do disappear when they change owners so you could play as England and keep releasing a vassal with Calais, annexing them then re-designating it.
I'm sorry my answer was a 'boring stable non-answer'
That's ok. It's very typical that people have stock answers in the game wherein the DLCs have changed things. The wiki is covered with this from end to end and thus when I read the wiki and then looked to see what the real numbers were, I fully expected the answer that it's 10 when now it's only 2. It's only boring in so far as I know the answer is probably that there isn't a good answer. Trying to redo the same missions a zillion times is the sort of gamey thing I just won't do because, for me anyway, it kind of turns the game and the achievement into a pointless grind. I never use any of these. Another example was when you could send an ambassador to improve relations, call him back and immediately send him again and get twice the relations or when the missions came back immediately and you could do stuff like get "save money" by buying a zillion things, lick the goal, unbuy them, get the buff, buy a billion things, and so forth. I actually enjoy watching youtubes where someone does this because it's kind of funny, but for me personally, that kind of thing ruins the game because it goes from being a strategy game to having tricks up one about the current versions implementation to bypass the strategy aspects entirely and do some random thing that Paradox will no doubt patch out at some point. For me that's boring, not so much for other folks though, so don't take it personally.
I kind of figured it researching this that 1.8 screwed this achievement as well. I wrote before 1.8 about how they were probably making a lot of achievements impossible. In fact, I specifically did Luck of the Irish in 1.7 because given the rebel system they envisioned for 1.8 it seemed likely that this would be practically undoable without trickiness as well.
On the other hand, some achievements look much more doable than before (Queen of Mercury comes to mind as well as Trail of Tears). So it's a mixed bag.
Thanks to all for the thoughts. I'll be happy with hitting the form Italy button and maybe the Trade Hegemony one as well with my current Genoa game (it would be too easy to do the latter with the Ottos).
Wait, Trail of Tears is more doable? With all the extra provinces in the 13 colonies region?
Of course is more doable, more BT for you, and easier way to westernize. In pre 1.8 when europeans arrived all provinces were gone in like 2 years... now it takes much more so you can expand more freely
At least back in 1.7 you can do these missions repeatedly. I did Ragusa like 2 times, Tangiers like 5 times. It would be much slower now, but Genoa would still be quite consistent....
but 50% autonomy makes the provinces worth less so its ahrder to build up money to fund numerous colonists. Colonial nations don't have the 50% problem, so they grow faster than you more easily.
Start as Portugal. Colonize immediately. Pick trade ideas. Choose mercantilism in every event. Use your papal authority on mercantilism. Hope for the best.
I got it by mid 18th century in 1.7, where the papal thing didn't exist, so it should be quite likely now.
I got it by mid 18th century in 1.7, where the papal thing didn't exist, so it should be quite likely now.
Trying for this as Venice at the minute by 1600 I have 50% merchantilism so it's not going well. Do things like completed trade ideas, or any other ideas increase the number and frequency of events?
Also going for Venetian sea too which short of migrating a CN into Europe seems almost impossible with the amount of downstream transfers.
Also going for Venetian sea too which short of migrating a CN into Europe seems almost impossible with the amount of downstream transfers.
Both trade ideas and plutocracy have at least one event, but you don't need to complete them for a chance.
Good to know, already got both thanks. I tanked my PI though because with only 10 provinces I wasn't making much (1.5/year) and some of the events you can get that reduce PI give other good bonuses. I guess I will need to get lucky.