They will intermarry, yes. But you shouldn't always consider it incest. If you have hundreds or thousands of family members the number of common ancestors two people share can be pretty small.
Strategic use of daughters
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They will intermarry, yes. But you shouldn't always consider it incest. If you have hundreds or thousands of family members the number of common ancestors two people share can be pretty small.
Hell yeah, just safed myself and sons a good 100 years of war as Alexios Komnenos by doing that. Made one of alp's younger sons marry a greek courtier, invite her, crown him King of Cyprus, ask him to convert and press his strong claim. i won the field battle against their 20k doomstack and sieged 8 provinces, brought me pretty much the slightly expanding 1081 start seljuk territory in one single war (i sent all my levy there, admittedly).
and all muslim vassals, the next 5 years was so bloody sorting that out after tyrant-style revoking KoPersia once and granting it back on my claimant to rid him of all that vassals outside his de jure territory (btw since then I can raise the Gulahm as Byzantine emperor. Who needs those drunk Varangians anymore? Gonna get Mamlukes next from a claimant for Egypt).
At topic, it already was mentioned that on low levels the alliance is very important (as 1-county-count it can decide your war if your father in law owns 2 counties and not only one as your opponents father in law, and sometimes even on King-Level it can matter a lot whom you're allied to- I was damn happy when suddenly, with the war half done and just threatened by their arriving second doomstack 6000 Norwegians landed at the coast to support my sieges against the Seljuks in the game mentioned above for example)
Oh that dude did bloody good work for 1 and a half years until his kinsmen killed him, and did take care of half the muslims for me (those in de jure persia, precicely).
after all I granted him a Kingdom and pressed him a claim so he was still on around +35 to me despite the revoked King tier titles, and with the proper religion and max CA from his nephews he immediately started to revoke the infidel titles himself. Raised his son myself, So next generation will spread Greek Culture in persia.
The way it went I was able to raise 16k levy from de jure Persia a week after I took it (and had revoked and given it back), and declare Holy War (gaining all of Persia I was able to immediately disband my levy after the war) on what was left of Khiva and the Cumans right behind them to not set that 16k men in march for one duchy. He meanwhile fought revolts.
(ridiculously few revolts, actually. I myself had maybe one or two counts revolting against my own revokes in what the Seljuks owned in 1110 with a 1081 start, pretty much de jure Mesopotamia, Syria, Jerusalem and Arabia which they had eaten out of the Fatimids already- so i revoked definitely over 50 titles within two or three weeks.Even the Sunni Caliph totally accepted to reduce his domain to one mosque holding in Nikomedeia I granted and left him
after all I granted him a Kingdom and pressed him a claim so he was still on around +35 to me despite the revoked King tier titles, and with the proper religion and max CA from his nephews he immediately started to revoke the infidel titles himself. Raised his son myself, So next generation will spread Greek Culture in persia.
The way it went I was able to raise 16k levy from de jure Persia a week after I took it (and had revoked and given it back), and declare Holy War (gaining all of Persia I was able to immediately disband my levy after the war) on what was left of Khiva and the Cumans right behind them to not set that 16k men in march for one duchy. He meanwhile fought revolts.
(ridiculously few revolts, actually. I myself had maybe one or two counts revolting against my own revokes in what the Seljuks owned in 1110 with a 1081 start, pretty much de jure Mesopotamia, Syria, Jerusalem and Arabia which they had eaten out of the Fatimids already- so i revoked definitely over 50 titles within two or three weeks.Even the Sunni Caliph totally accepted to reduce his domain to one mosque holding in Nikomedeia I granted and left him
Even the Sunni Caliph totally accepted to reduce his domain to one mosque holding in Nikomedeia I granted and left him
One of these days, I’ll capture Jerusalem as a Tengri and build nothing but churches and mosques. I’ll give one to the Sunni Caliph, one to the Shia Caliph, one to the Pope and one to the Ecumenical Patriarch, all on the same street. I’ll have my chaplain run inquisitions until there are no actual Christians or Muslims in any of their courts, just people playing dress-up for the tourists, and let them argue forever which is the One True Religion.
My games tend to spend a lot of time on 'pause' as I ponder what to do; invariably I'll have at least one super-daughter (i.e. really high stats) who I know even if I marry matrilineally will have probably no more than one offspring. Her future relegated to that of a tutor until she dies an ignoble death in obscurity - or Queen of England?
Ponder, ponder.
If she has a desire to marry a leader, then I'll usually try to find her a king or crown prince (who is not a glutton or slothful or cruel - which is harder than it sounds lol.)