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Hmmm, perhaps this is why Manuals don`t get released early... because people start taking the game to bits and complaining about the slightest apparent fault, even before seeing how it works out.

Manual = whine fuel?

I for one appreciate the pdf quick start guide anyway and will not use it to pick incessantly.
 

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Hmmm, perhaps this is why Manuals don`t get released early... because people start taking the game to bits and complaining about the slightest apparent fault, even before seeing how it works out.

Manual = whine fuel?

I for one appreciate the pdf quick start guide anyway and will not use it to pick incessantly.

I don't think this is whining. I'm glad to see things like this discussed. I think its whining when people complain AFTER they have received a logical explanation on why a feature was designed in a certain manner.
 

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Why the heck would I redeploy if it costs more resources? Sure, it's faster, but fuel is just as precious as time.
 

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Why the heck would I redeploy if it costs more resources? Sure, it's faster, but fuel is just as precious as time.

Because if you don't you might not care that you have saved some fuel? You know, it's a long way to Kiev from Berlin when your speed is 5mph... (and that's optimistic, as I doubt the Landsers marched at 5mph 24/7 come sun or rain)
 

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Why the heck would I redeploy if it costs more resources? Sure, it's faster, but fuel is just as precious as time.

Because 10 days of normal movement costing 10 fuel each day means 100 fuel, while 5 day for 15 fuel each costs 75 fuel. That's why.
 

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SR represents the ability for a division to be loaded on a train and transferred quickly over long distances.

Advantages in real life are the unit doesn't suffer attrition, use FUEL, wear and tear on equipment (a big deal for tanks and trucks and soldier's shoes).

Disadvantages should be some organization loss as the unit ends its movement, and the loss of supplies/resources that could have been moved by those same rail cars.

Hopefully this is true in the game as in real life.
 

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I think independent Brigades is definitely the way to go, but I can see why the developers resisted that initially.

They did?

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Ok it works like this. You can take the third or fourth brigade from a division but not the second. However, by taking one of these you get a single brigade. Which is, as you can see, indicated as a brigade on the counter. In order to deploy them alone on the field of battle after you build them, like a "Schwere Panzer Abteilung" for example, you first need to put them inside a division and then detach them.
 

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Sorry, that line was an error in the Quickstart Guide.

Strategic Redeployment costs more supplies and reduces organisation. No fuel cost.

Rensslaer
 

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Sorry, that line was an error in the Quickstart Guide.

Strategic Redeployment costs more supplies and reduces organisation. No fuel cost.

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Hey this clears it all up, and seems to be a good representation of what should happen.
On a side note, can you stop a unit where ever its at when its being SR? Or does it need to go all the way to its destination or enemy border (if said destination is taken over)
 

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Sorry, that line was an error in the Quickstart Guide.

Strategic Redeployment costs more supplies and reduces organisation. No fuel cost.

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Congrats on a job well done sir!

On a side note, can you stop a unit where ever its at when its being SR? Or does it need to go all the way to its destination or enemy border (if said destination is taken over)

Yes.
 

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Yes well done on the guide, it is just the right size and clarity to help with the Demo :D
 

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Hey this clears it all up, and seems to be a good representation of what should happen.
On a side note, can you stop a unit where ever its at when its being SR? Or does it need to go all the way to its destination or enemy border (if said destination is taken over)

It's on the map now, you can grab a division and say 'stop the trains and get off here'. It should have a big fat org penalty for the disruption of telling a dozen troop trains (who won't all be in the same spot) to stop, but it probably won't.