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Do you folks really not read the FAQs here??? :rofl:
Lawkeeper went to a LOT of trouble to do the Diplomacy FAQ. It spells out EXACTLY what you need for diplo-annexation.
Read it.
Lawkeeper went to a LOT of trouble to do the Diplomacy FAQ. It spells out EXACTLY what you need for diplo-annexation.
Read it.
But he's right. People who are too lazy to go and read the relevant FAQ dont' deserve to live.Wari Bana said:you say FAQ all the time, FAQ this and FAQ that, well FAQ y...
A rather interesting England:
Somehow, they use to be beaten hard when I play the OE :wacko:
It should be mentioned that most of the southern parts were an increasingly large French domain. They decided to take the HYW across the Channel, and were quite successful. Scotland got maximum three provs through war, the rest later revolted to them from France, when the Wars of Religion struck.
The purple in Meath and Wessex is Denmark, while the purple in Brittany is Venice.
Somehow, they use to be beaten hard when I play the OE :wacko:
It should be mentioned that most of the southern parts were an increasingly large French domain. They decided to take the HYW across the Channel, and were quite successful. Scotland got maximum three provs through war, the rest later revolted to them from France, when the Wars of Religion struck.
The purple in Meath and Wessex is Denmark, while the purple in Brittany is Venice.
Mats_SX said:A rather interesting England:
Somehow, they use to be beaten hard when I play the OE :wacko:
It should be mentioned that most of the southern parts were an increasingly large French domain. They decided to take the HYW across the Channel, and were quite successful. Scotland got maximum three provs through war, the rest later revolted to them from France, when the Wars of Religion struck.
The purple in Meath and Wessex is Denmark, while the purple in Brittany is Venice.
Denmark's pretty good, that's the best i've ever seen them.
Denmark's story is even more intricate in this game. They were on the brink of destruction, having lost both Jylland and Holstein to France, but then, as mentioned, the Wars of Religion came along, and France's very large empire broke asunder. Even I as the Ottomans were a part of it, as a sizeable part of the French army fell victim to Süleyman when he was defending his possessions in Savoy. It was previously annexed by Tunisia, who were annexed by Mamluks, who were annexed by me.jdfess6 said:
Wari Bana said:
Well man, i remember in MyMap where i tried to DA a few provinces France, which barely had 20 MI, with my Spain, which had about 2000 monthly income and about 600k stationary troops... Always failed and the bastards even dared canceling it.
And regarding the FAQ... in fact, i have read it and fulfilled every option back and forth, countless times but its futile. Even in multiplayer, i am forced to ask someone to do the dirty job of force-annexing the major nation in question. In Last Huzzah for example, where i owned all of britain, low countries, norway/denmark and all of northern france as england, i always failed at DAing the 1 province, by then, AI france.
I really keep wondering whats the deal - with other nations i have never noticed a single problem. Is there even something, regarding the game engine, that causes a nation to be regarded as major?
Well, the old portuguese anthem DID say "Against the Bretons, March, March!". Seems like the AI has been trying to. At least in Britanny.
Yes, they aren't doing that bad. Too bad for them that I felt like colonizing and had to sink their navy when I took Lisbon for maps, though.BurningEGO said:
Emperor_krk said:But he's right. People who are too lazy to go and read the relevant FAQ dont' deserve to live.
Well no FAQ or expert could tell me why i couldn't vassalise the Netherlands last year. So it may be gospel but not the whole bible.
jdfess6 said:
Now you run to the biggest AI thread and look at Denmark. :rofl: Denmark only owns 2 more provinces than normal.. that nothing.
Link?The Swert said:
The diplomacy mechanics are quite well-known. If you couldn't, it's because of something spelled out in the FAQ.
Honestly. You people act like this game isn't several years old, and all figured out. :rofl:
Several years old for sure but many people don't know it by heart.DSYoungEsq said:
<sigh>BurningEGO said:
Ok, for the last time.
The FAQ is quite thoroughly researched. Hours and hours went into it. I know, because I was there when it was being put together. And we went through some lengthy board discussions, and lots and lots of people tried things out.
And it is quite accurate. If you are unable to diplo-annex a country, then one of the factors listed is missing.
This is especially true if you cannot diplo-annex after 30 years of continuous vassalization. After that, the randomness simply goes away and if you can annex, you will annex.
So if you are not completing annexations, you are doing something wrong.
The usual suspects:
You are before the Edict of Tolerance, and you are Catholic and they are Protestant/Reformed, or vice-versa. Thus, you cannot have a royal marriage and are thus unable to diplo-annex. Wait until the Edict of Tolerance.
Your vassal is not at peace. It's stuck in a war with some nation three-quarters of the way across the map, and one or the other of the nations has managed to capture a province, so a white-peace isn't possible. The fix is simple: load up the game as your vassal and peace out the war by giving the opponent everything they could want.
More practically, edit the save file to end the war with a white peace. These are cheating of course. If you don't like to cheat, well, you may have to wait a long while.You lack a common border. This one trips up even the best players. The solution, fortunately, is simple. Take a province next to your vassal from whomever it is that is weakest.
Again, I want to iterate: this game has been out since 2002. It's been played extensively by a very large number of players. There was a time when this board used to have so many new threads in a single day in the main forum for the game that you would scroll off the front page if someone didn't answer within 24 hours. The game's mechanics are quite well documented (we even had the help of the lead programmer, Johan Andersson, who in a couple of instances allowed forum members to hack the .exe to figure out what was going on; see the Battle System FAQ for an example). In almost all instances where someone documented what they thought was an error to one of the FAQs, persistent efforts to uncover the culprit yielded the unsurprising result that the FAQ was correct and there was a factor that the player wasn't taking into account.
If you ever have a result you think isn't what should be expected in a game, save the game, and post your question. Be patient, since the number of people who pop in here anymore on a regular basis is relatively small (they are all off playing EU3, the fools! :wacko: :wacko: ). One of us will try to help, and, if need be, likely would be willing to have you transmit the save game so we can look at it and spot the problem.
I know they don't; it's their assumption that no one does that gets me chuckling.YodaMaster said:Several years old for sure but many people don't know it by heart.
DSYoungEsq said:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330817
It partially led to the downfall of my first AAR.
DSYoungEsq said:
and that's why they call us 'noobs', but thanks for the help, so stab has nothing to do with it then , huh?
Who assumed that?DSYoungEsq said:I know they don't; it's their assumption that no one does that gets me chuckling.
Do you really know everything about EU2?DSYoungEsq said:I know they don't; it's their assumption that no one does that gets me chuckling.
I'm just askin'...