• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

unmerged(23437)

Colonel
Dec 13, 2003
860
0
Iasius said:
And in another game we have Spain, England and Lorraine! dividing up France between them.

What I don't get is Spain annexed France (if you check the event log) but Lorraine holds Ile-de-France. So that means that France was reduced to being a 1-province minor based outside I-d-F. All I can assume is that some other French minor managed to form France?
 

Iasius

Custom User Title
10 Badges
Feb 18, 2004
511
0
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
Wooster said:
What I don't get is Spain annexed France (if you check the event log) but Lorraine holds Ile-de-France. So that means that France was reduced to being a 1-province minor based outside I-d-F. All I can assume is that some other French minor managed to form France?
The history of France in this game was quite odd, one really disastrous war (the other wars France participated in were mostly the usual back and forth, though on the whole still bad for France) followed by a series of annexations and declarations of independance:
Code:
March 3, 1496      : France accepted peace with Saxony on the following terms : France pays 226d in indemnities. Zeeland to Saxony, Picardie to Lorraine, Franche Comté to Lorraine, Alsace to Lorraine & Artois to Lorraine. 
May 20, 1516       : France accepted peace with Lorraine on the following terms : Full Annexation of France by Lorraine
July 1, 1516       : The people of France declared independence from Burgundy.
May 24, 1520       : France accepted peace with England on the following terms : Full Annexation of France by England
November 1, 1522   : The people of France declared independence from Lorraine.
September 14, 1525 : France accepted peace with Lorraine on the following terms : France pays 29d in indemnities. Nivernais to Lorraine. France will become a vassal.
September 14, 1525 : France became Vassals of Lorraine.
August 10, 1619    : Lorraine annexed France.
December 1, 1653   : The people of France declared independence from Auvergne.
March 8, 1658      : Auvergne accepted peace with France on the following terms : Full Annexation of Auvergne by France
June 23, 1675      : France became Vassals of Spain.
June 23, 1685      : Spain annexed France.

@ HÄI: Huh?
 
Last edited:

unmerged(18239)

Lt.-Colonel of Guerillas
Jul 14, 2003
7.814
1
Visit site
Iasius said:
The history of France in this game was quite odd, one really disastrous war (the other wars France participated in were mostly the usual back and forth, though on the whole still bad for France) followed by a series of annexations and declarations of independance:
Code:
March 3, 1496      : France accepted peace with Saxony on the following terms : France pays 226d in indemnities. Zeeland to Saxony, Picardie to Lorraine, Franche Comté to Lorraine, Alsace to Lorraine & Artois to Lorraine. 
May 20, 1516       : France accepted peace with Lorraine on the following terms : Full Annexation of France by Lorraine
July 1, 1516       : The people of France declared independence from Burgundy.
May 24, 1520       : France accepted peace with England on the following terms : Full Annexation of France by England
November 1, 1522   : The people of France declared independence from Lorraine.
September 14, 1525 : France accepted peace with Lorraine on the following terms : France pays 29d in indemnities. Nivernais to Lorraine. France will become a vassal.
September 14, 1525 : France became Vassals of Lorraine.
August 10, 1619    : Lorraine annexed France.
December 1, 1653   : The people of France declared independence from Auvergne.
March 8, 1658      : Auvergne accepted peace with France on the following terms : Full Annexation of Auvergne by France
June 23, 1675      : France became Vassals of Spain.
June 23, 1685      : Spain annexed France.

@ HÄI: Huh?

Always strange guys those frenchies.
 

Iasius

Custom User Title
10 Badges
Feb 18, 2004
511
0
  • Hearts of Iron Anthology
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Victoria 2
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
I especially like the part where they revolted from Auvergne and proceeded to win their war of independance by annexing Auvergne. :rofl:
 

Hastu Neon

Lt. General
49 Badges
Nov 29, 2002
1.361
54
48
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Semper Fi
  • Sword of the Stars
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Cities in Motion
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
June 23, 1675 : France became Vassals of Spain.
June 23, 1685 : Spain annexed France.

Wow, exactly 10 years of vassalage before being diploannexed. When you say the precision!
 

Rowain

Fight the good fight
80 Badges
Jun 1, 2004
217
0
www.gamingw.net
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
Iasius said:
Well, believe it or don't believe it.
1) I don't care.
2) I don't think this thread is about what can or can not be achieved in single player.

Calm down, no need to be a arshole.
 

unmerged(23437)

Colonel
Dec 13, 2003
860
0
Iasius: HAI means he saw PAP revolt from SCO. (Ahhh, acronymns :) )

Hastu Neon: 'Bout the only thing the AI honestly does better than a human, IME, is timing diplomatic manouevres.

Singleton: Very, very strange. Imagine what the history textbooks in *that* universe will read like. :) "The history of France is a long and bloody one, with Spanish and Lorrainesque [made that word up] hegemony only confirmed after numerous internal conflicts, during which time the English, Lorrainesque, long-defunct Burgundian and Spanish kingdoms tussled over the carcass of the French estates..."

And is that truly Sicily I spy spreading across the Med there, or is it a very malformed Aragon?
 

Rowain

Fight the good fight
80 Badges
Jun 1, 2004
217
0
www.gamingw.net
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
For Mother... Poland?!

Poland just annexed Lithuania... has anyone seen a turn around this amazing? The Vassalized have become the Vassalizers! The only country that rivals Poland's massive size at this point is the OE.. and me, Russia.

for_mother_POLAND.PNG
 
Feb 12, 2004
4.656
0
Rowain said:
Poland just annexed Lithuania... has anyone seen a turn around this amazing? The Vassalized have become the Vassalizers! The only country that rivals Poland's massive size at this point is the OE.. and me, Russia.

for_mother_POLAND.PNG
Hmmm, this is highly logical. There're historical events devised just for this purpose. ;)
 

Rowain

Fight the good fight
80 Badges
Jun 1, 2004
217
0
www.gamingw.net
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
Well, I know about the Poland-Lithuanian union, it's just that Poland is always annexed or reduced to 3 or 4 provinces in my games and Lithuania survives.
 

Jove

Follower of Christ
4 Badges
Jun 9, 2003
1.522
0
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Rome Gold
  • Rome: Vae Victis
Yeah that is wild. I mean, your capital is in Tula. Never saw that before.
 
Feb 12, 2004
4.656
0
Jove said:
Yeah that is wild. I mean, your capital is in Tula. Never saw that before.
AGCEEP ? IIRC, the capital of Russia is in Tula in this mod. :)
 

Rowain

Fight the good fight
80 Badges
Jun 1, 2004
217
0
www.gamingw.net
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Majesty 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
No, it's Vanilla.. don't you guys get the 'Evil Alien Invasions Forces Tsar to Move Capitol With His Bare Hands and Two Donkies' event in 1521? No? I'm the only one? Strange...
 

unmerged(19673)

Member of the Opposition
Sep 15, 2003
1.440
0
Visit site
Iasius said:
Have a monthly income of more than 1000 ducats and you get there fast with some minting. :)
How did I get that income? 5 merchants in every CoT in the world, a few monopolies in the colonial CoTs, lots of colonies, conquering most of the pagans, annexing other muslims, that sort of thing (I had about 250 provinces with ports at that time alone). Your basic singleplayer world domination.


No, I just had to play on easy/coward.
I actually had more than 100,000 ducats a few years earlier when I minted until I had 10% inflation (from 0%) to finance some 40 or 50 manufactories.

wouldnt you need alot more than 100k to build 40+ manus?