Strange AI behavior: Loving mother murders own daughter for NO apparent reason.

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Another related thing: When you hover the cursor over the skull you see the cause of death. "In suspicious accident" is pretty obvious, successful murder plot or paid assassination in which the plotters were not caught (although the culprits might often be very obvious ones). The other thing is "Murdered by orders of nn" which was discussed already, the name in NN might have not been the main plotter but any plot member, who has got the blame (may have been framed or just the only one who got caught)

What about "Died in an accident"? Are these genuine accidents or very very successful outcomes of murder plots? I mean like suspicious accidents which have been set so well that they don't even rouse any suspects (a paradox, I admit)?

I don't think my character has ever died in a genuine accident. I have got injured in a hunting accident ("Maimed" trait outcome and died shortly after) but haven't got the outright death result. Are there any other genuine accidents in the game or have I just missed them completely? In any case when I see "Died in an accident" I get a little suspicious...


Deaths in accidents are deaths the likes of which you see when you magnificently fail at slaying that boar for your feast.
 

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The AI needs some human-like overrides in scripts to prevent behaviours that look random, amoral or otherwise grossly out of touch on a human.

I've been saying this for some time. It especially should require a particularly evil character to plot infanticide and especially in his own family. I think even simple Cruel doesn't suffice and it definitely looks wrong on characters that have a full bar of positive trait icons.

In other words, the AI needs to roleplay more.
 

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Maybe it was a Becketesque scenario. "Will nobody rid me of this troublesome brat!", she says. Several helpful knights who are fawning over the whole German lesbian thing take her literally. Bloodshed for the whole family ensues!
 

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My only son was once 'murdered on the orders of Lop de Narbonne'. I found Lop de Narbonne in, well, Narbonne.
The sonuvabitch child-killer was a friggin' Court Chaplain, mind you. More pious than the Pope! Why the hell had he my child killed? They weren't even remotely related, in any way possible!
Well, I had him imprisoned, then beheaded. Took the 'tyran' penalty, but I didn't care, I had my revenge, and justice was done.

... or so I thought.

A few weeks later, I get a message saying that Lop de Narbonne is plotting to kill my wife!
'Isn't that guy's head already separated from his neck?', I say.
That's when I realize that there is a second 'Lop de Narbonne', in the county of Armagnac. He's matrilineally married to my wife's sister. My wife, you see, is set to inherit Armagnac... and her sister is second in line... And this Lop de Narbonne is a cynical ambitious cruel master plotter!
... Oops...
So, it was that Lop de Narbonne... Awkward...
 

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My only son was once 'murdered on the orders of Lop de Narbonne'. I found Lop de Narbonne in, well, Narbonne.
The sonuvabitch child-killer was a friggin' Court Chaplain, mind you. More pious than the Pope! Why the hell had he my child killed? They weren't even remotely related, in any way possible!
Well, I had him imprisoned, then beheaded. Took the 'tyran' penalty, but I didn't care, I had my revenge, and justice was done.

... or so I thought.

A few weeks later, I get a message saying that Lop de Narbonne is plotting to kill my wife!
'Isn't that guy's head already separated from his neck?', I say.
That's when I realize that there is a second 'Lop de Narbonne', in the county of Armagnac. He's matrilineally married to my wife's sister. My wife, you see, is set to inherit Armagnac... and her sister is second in line... And this Lop de Narbonne is a cynical ambitious cruel master plotter!
... Oops...
So, it was that Lop de Narbonne... Awkward...

In the words of the Three Kingdom's Cao Cao,
"I'd rather let the world down than to allow the world to let me down."
 

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My only son was once 'murdered on the orders of Lop de Narbonne'. I found Lop de Narbonne in, well, Narbonne.
The sonuvabitch child-killer was a friggin' Court Chaplain, mind you. More pious than the Pope! Why the hell had he my child killed? They weren't even remotely related, in any way possible!
Well, I had him imprisoned, then beheaded. Took the 'tyran' penalty, but I didn't care, I had my revenge, and justice was done.

... or so I thought.

A few weeks later, I get a message saying that Lop de Narbonne is plotting to kill my wife!
'Isn't that guy's head already separated from his neck?', I say.
That's when I realize that there is a second 'Lop de Narbonne', in the county of Armagnac. He's matrilineally married to my wife's sister. My wife, you see, is set to inherit Armagnac... and her sister is second in line... And this Lop de Narbonne is a cynical ambitious cruel master plotter!
... Oops...
So, it was that Lop de Narbonne... Awkward...

You were so zealous in your pursuit of justice that you killed Lop de Narbonne twice for the murder!