Straits on New Patch (How to delete them?)

[unmerged(24934)]

That's all. I was wondering if it was possible, with the latest patch (April '05) to delete those undesirable straits (Calais-Kent!? Gibraltar-Tingis!!??, and more).

Thanks.

 

[Stonewall]

Yes, you can delete them. Or add new ones.

 

[unmerged(24934)]

Excellent. I see now that someone's just asked this before.

Thank you.

 

[Stonewall]

I just realized that even though I answered the question, I neglected to tell you how to do it. Sorry. If you go into the /map folder, there is a file called adj-defs.csv. This fil contains the information on which provinces are connected via straits.

The file is as follows:

From;To;Type;Through;Comment
#;;;;
370;369;sea;999;Make Venice an Island
370;369;sea;999;Make Venice an Island
370;371;sea;999;Make Venice an Island
370;390;sea;999;Make Venice an Island
#;;;;
309;307;sea;875;Jutland-Sjaelland
251;307;sea;875;Sjaelland-Skåne
#;;;;
477;357;sea;1012;Constantinople...
478;357;sea;1012;Constantinople...
359;479;sea;1011;Hellas-Ionian
478;479;sea;1011;Smyrna-Ionian
358;478;sea;1011;Smyrna-Macedonia
#;;;;
395;394;sea;998;Messina-Apulia
464;465;sea;1017;Kaffa-Kerch
337;339;sea;938;Friesen-Holland
239;232;sea;929;Strathclyde-Ulster
382;248;sea;937;Calais-Kent
445;732;sea;982;Tangiers-Gibraltar
#;;;;
687;686;sea;1020;Shikoku-Kansai
658;1082;normal;0;Not a straight, but cantons connection to the sea.
#;;;;
93;95;river;0;Between Great Lakes, no boats possible in there anyway.
1470;266;normal;0;Bugfixing
1470;267;normal;0;Bugfixing
-1;-1;;;

The only values that mean anything are the first 4. "From", "To", "Type", and "Through."

The "From" value is the province id of the first province in the strait scheme. For example, if I wanted to create a strait that started in Stockholm, I would enter 254 as this value.

The "To" value is the province id of the second province in the strait scheme. For example, if I wanted to complete the strait from Stocvkholm to finland, I would enter 342 as this value.

Now we move to the 3rd value, "Type." This identifies the type of province the strait is going to be passing through. If you enter "sea" in this value, you will be designating that this is a naval strait that crosses through a seazone, identified in the 4th slot for the strait entry. If, however, you want to create an adjacency that doesn't necessarily involve going over a seazone, or one that you don't want to be blockable (by putting a navy in the zone), designate the entry as "normal" with a corresponding '0' value in the 4th entry. You can use this to create a land bridge from Kazan through the PTI to the norther Siberian corridor. You can use this to create a link between the Western US provinces through the PTI and connect it in the Great Plains. For purposes of our example, we want to create a naval strait, so we would enter value as "sea."

The 4th entry, "Through" is the province id of the seazone that the strait will pass through. This will also allow a navy stationed in this seazone to block the crossing of the strait. If you designate the 3rd value as "normal" then you will use a '0' in this entry so that it can not be blocked.

This information is correct as far as my testing has been able to determine. If anyone has information that is contrary to what I've posted, please let me know. Feel free to add more stuff as it becomes available.

Right now I'm testing ways to reverse the straits, i.e. creating Suez and Panama Canal by using the seazone id's as the starit "to" and "from" values and the land id as the "through" value. I'll post results as soon as I can test it.

 

[kaytaz]

Here's a little additional information:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4010822

 

[unmerged(40258)]

for making a strait through PTI, is PTI value 0?

 

[wilcoxchar]

ooooooh, reverse straits. I like the idea. Maybe make the Great Lakes actually connectable to the Gulf of St. Laurence since many naval batles during the war of 1812 were fought in the Lakes.

 

[Stonewall]

for making a strait through PTI, is PTI value 0?

Yes.

 

[unmerged(40258)]

Thanks, i really could use some self-made straits in the americas..

I'm off to create some "portals".. hehehe

 

[unmerged(40707)]

ooooooh, reverse straits. I like the idea. Maybe make the Great Lakes actually connectable to the Gulf of St. Laurence since many naval batles during the war of 1812 were fought in the Lakes.

And finally being able to discover Great Lakes (the sea province) as non american. They're always TI if you aren't NA native since patch where pagans no more deliver maps when capital is occupied...

 

[unmerged(40258)]

And finally being able to discover Great Lakes (the sea province) as non american. They're always TI if you aren't NA native since patch where pagans no more deliver maps when capital is occupied...

oh, yeah, i hate that... damn iroquois and huron and lenape and all.... were they really so good at hiding their maps?
or most likely they had NO maps to steal.... :rofl:

 

[unmerged(40707)]

or most likely they had NO maps to steal.... :rofl:

Yes, indeed :rofl:
BTW, no offense to NA natives

So we have to be able to discover the Great Lakes sea province by ourselves... with a "reverse" strait between Gulf of St. Laurence and Great Lakes
And have ports in Great Lakes adjacent land provinces where applicable

 

[wilcoxchar]

And now we can make the Caspain sea worth something by maybe having a strait between it and the Black Sea? Just a thought.

 

[kaytaz]

And now we can make the Caspain sea worth something by maybe having a strait between it and the Black Sea? Just a thought.

Maybe a small reverse strait between Volga and Donets rivers, and then through there to the Black Sea?