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You two decide that. If one of you are interested in doing the Omnistan (called that ATM) you're free to do it. But I think I can do it aswell, it should only be an alliance.

Do you want to do it Kyran?;)

The Arab league was to be a somekind of new muslim nation that can fight whoever attacks. Maybe the other countries around it can choose to join (annexed), or be a vassal, or just be an allied.
The capitol was to be in Damascus? Either that or Mekkah right?


We're starting to speed up again now fella's. It goes faster than ever before (except the summer holiday), and we should be able to do alot during the summer holiday. Looking good:)
 

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Doing the stan alliance is maybe not as easy as you think. AI countries goes almost immidately in to alliance and to my knowledge there are no such thing as breaking an alliance, but I can be wrong and eve if it is so you must do a number of events there you broke alliance with the ones that is most chance that your in an alliance with.

Or you could give them RMs and good relationship and create defensive events if someone gets attacked by Persia or Arabic League the other countries get events there they can declare war on the country.
Didn't you start on something like the Gath? with Saladin II? you could always continue...
Yes I did, but a Arabic League is more historical.
 
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But they have the same ancestors, they were one people, before the turks pushed into Anatolia. I think there's many similarities between their countries.

In breaking alliances, what if they all become a new "religion"? that usually makes them break alliances. We could have it as a communistic alliance or some other. (commie was a bad example right?:p)

I'm not sure if there's any breakalliance trigger, but there's a breakvassalship;)
 

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I'm pretty sure they all don't speak Turkish...

The people of the stans, Kyrgistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kazachstan and Turkmenistan all speak a language rather closely related to Turkish. Their culture share similarities too. Even the Uiguhrs in western China share these similarities..
 

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The people in Turkey and all the -stans speak Turkic languages, which are closely related to Turkish. I have heard they are mutually intelligible, but I am not certain. Generally the entire area is called Turkestan.

Turkic languages are part of the Altaic family, along with (I think) Mongolian. Finnish, Estonian, Saami, and Hungarian are part of the Uralic family. Many linguists say that these two should in fact be considered one Ural-Altaic family.
 

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I've got to say... the Arab League is going to end up to be a great component for when we get WW3 all worked out. I've gotten a new idea for how a dissovlement of the US could take place, just need to perfect it. Would begin with the economy getting worse and all the buget decieit getting higher. Many state governments are thinging about cutting extra-ciricular activites, sports, and everything except the core classes. This is also in the state where students have the highest test scores. Pretty bleak eh?

So i was thinking this may trigger something if it gets worse. I mean every level of government going into deficit isn't good. Could greatly increase unrest if they resort to teaching the cores only. Slowly dissolving the respect for how they government is taking care of the people. And the constitution says if they people arn't being served like they should they have the right rebel. This could either mean a really messy revolution where no one has control, or states secede and they try being the highest form of government(I personally think that if that happened I'd try to go against it with force if necessary because the state i live in doesn't treat the north part very fairly.) But anyway, I'd probably see that as a more credible storyline than the government taking away everyone's rights slowly away starting with religion.
 
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Looking good for me too.

As for the war in the Middle-east, It'll probably start with the foundation of Persia, there's a guy there who makes himself emperor of Persia, and has the people in his back. This threatens their neighbors, especially their hated enemy Turkey. Persia founds an alliance (*) with some nations in the caucasus, and Persia grow to threaten their neighbors in every corner.

The Arab League forms, to protect them from both the west, and Persia. Seeing These strong nations form,Turkey is forced to ask their etnichal brothers in the Stan's (**) to join, to answer the threat of Persia. Turkestan is borned.

Persia almost forces Azerbaijan to join Persia, and asks Armenia and Georgia too, they accept, but only if they can stay somehow independent (vassals).

Then there could be an eventual war between AL and Israel, I don't care about the result really.

At the same time the war goes on in the west, Persia allies with India, And wage war with Pakistan and Afghanistan. (There's the Pakistani-Indian war we've waited for;)).

Whatever the result is, Persia turns to the west after the war, and Attacks Turkestan with all its forces, and The AL can eventually attack Turkestan aswell. This way Persia can attack the Stanish (;)) lands, and the AL the turkish lands. This makes the west (USA) to react, and WW3 is on it's way...

If there's a second Russian revolution, it should happen before this, If it does (Or if the USSR never dissolved), USSR can Ally with Persia and attack the Stan's from the North, to regain what they once had.


*= Azerbijan, Georgia, Armenia.

**= Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Kirghizia.
 

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I happy to cause another Glorious Soviet Revolution :D

I was thinking about Israel, the AL would invade to 'create' Palistine, which would then in a year or so vote to join the AL of course ;)

What about a new country, 'AASME' = Arab-American States of the Middle East :D the U.A.E., Kuwait and whoever could join :p
 
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Good. But I just want to find out if there's someone that's already started on one... I don't think so, but I have to make sure...:)
 

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I was thinking about Israel, the AL would invade to 'create' Palistine, which would then in a year or so vote to join the AL of course

I think that if that happened it should be after the Mid Eastern war with Persia and the Stans so they would be justified probably in attacking the Mid-east.
 

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How abaout when the Arab League in in full swing will most of its countries their be a leadership challange, and a 'civil war' between one faction who want it to stay a League and the other who wants it to become the Arab Empire..