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Gathenhielm

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Originally posted by Mormegil
I don't think so. They would probalbly stand together in a war when another country invades. Ancient Greece is an example. Fighting each others, but when Persia invades, they allways join:D


And Gath:
If we are to make it in MDS, we'll just name it Persepolis, and start it as beeing a colony or a wery small city (I guess there's some small towns nearby). And then when the rebuild event arrives, we'll just add a lot of population. :)


I kinda wants that to happen in MDS. I'll make the events. However, when should it happen? I don't think it should happen too late, or else the city will grow too big. In the worst case, we'll just make some -5000 pop in Fars events, so that the city won't grow too big.

It depends on which country. If the country has a lot of freedom movement an invasion could cause an explosion. Like in yoguslavia with an invasion.


Sounds good, I just hope there arent any other big city in the province.


Well small cities dont tend to grew that very big.You need svereral hundred years for that.
 
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Yeah, but in Yugoslavia there was alot of different people (races, if that fits, i.e croats and bosnians). There was also muslims, orthodox and catholic, so that was one of the causes aswell.
China has stand strong for many many years. AFAIK the mongols are the only one that ever conqurered china. (Manchu was different)

But it depends on the country, indeed. But, there aren't all people that will revolt. The lapps are a good example. They're a minority in AFAIK most commune's in Norway. Probably in the rest of the countries as well. 50.000 world-wide i think (or was it 100.000?). They're few, that's my point.:) The native americans in USA is one of the other ones etc...

Anyway, that's history, not future;) :D
 

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The Japanese came close to conquering China, but then they bombed Pearl Harbor and they kind of lost their focus.....

And uhh... yeah. Not all minorities revolt, just look at the USA. Although there are some small separatist movements, ect. no real big ones. And besides, if China thought anything was going bad they'd just flood the area with colonists like they did to Tibet.
 

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I think the muslim nations should unite after American and British attempts to 'westernise' them, and their governments not doing anything to stop these infidels :p. If could start by all muslim nations in the middle east getting RR and the 'Muslim Empire' created, and all the provinces joining when they defect from their previous owners. Then they would be expansionist ;) I think their was a EU2 mod like this..
 
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Maybe call it Muslim or Arab League instead. I think it should be Arab League, and that Iran won't join. They're Shiite. Besides, I've got other plans for Iran, later to be called Persia ;).
Also, Turkey can't join (too "westernized"). Turks and Persians are AFAIK not arabs.

Those who should participate:
Iraq**
Syria
Lebanon
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
U.A.E*
Qatar (if in the game)
Kuwait*


We can alternatively make something like this with the Stan's aswell. I just looked at the map. It'll be huge.

But, if any of them are to happen, where should the capital be?
Meccah? Baghdad? Damascus? Cairo?


* = too "westernized"?
** = maybe they should be westernized after the GW2? (If USA wins GW2 [in the game])

I think Gathenhielm has partially started something like this... However, I don't think he's finito.
 

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I think that those countries that are basically US airbases (Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, and soon to be Iraq) Probably shoudn't be in it. But he majority (Yemen, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and also but maybe not Egypt, Algeira, Tunisia, and Morrocco, and *maybe* we could put in an event for Pakistan where if it chooses not to help USA after 9/11 then it joins in.)
 
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Are Qatar in the game?

And, maybe we'll make the "join" option for those countries nr 2 so that there's a smaller chance they'll join.
 

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They're Shiite
I know they aren't the best country in the world but no need to call them shi... oh 2 i's.

I say Egypt and Libya in and maybe Algeria (not sure about that one)
I agree with a ahistorical pro-11/9 Pakistan joining it, if they join it despite not being arabs shouldn't Iran be allowed in?
 
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I'll see about it. Iran has got event for their own empire, but it doesn't hurt to make one. But we should make sure that there's only a small chance that Iran will join.
 

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About the Stan's, you should really involve Turkey if you're planning something for them. The majority of the population in the former soviet republics is of Turkish origin and already has strong cultural ties with Ankara. Maybe if Turkey started looking east rather than west, they could form some kind of union, one that could cooperate with the USA?

About Iran, will there be events which handle the current situation too?
 
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Yeah, the turk-stan thingie could be an anti-league nation. Then Persia will be the 3d majority in that province. If the league doesn't form, Turk-stan (I'll call it that until we've got a name) will not form. But not all the stan's should join, Afghanistan and Pakistan should definetly not. However, it'll look weird. Turkey is far from the stan's. Maybe a state in the Stan's and an alliance with Turkey?
I'm planning some "Persian claims" on afghanistan, and Pakistan is too distant.


Iran haven't got any events about the situation, but there's not so much making events of, or is it?
 

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Originally posted by Mormegil
Maybe call it Muslim or Arab League instead. I think it should be Arab League, and that Iran won't join. They're Shiite. Besides, I've got other plans for Iran, later to be called Persia ;).
Also, Turkey can't join (too "westernized"). Turks and Persians are AFAIK not arabs.

Those who should participate:
Iraq**
Syria
Lebanon
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
U.A.E*
Qatar (if in the game)
Kuwait*


We can alternatively make something like this with the Stan's aswell. I just looked at the map. It'll be huge.

But, if any of them are to happen, where should the capital be?
Meccah? Baghdad? Damascus? Cairo?


* = too "westernized"?
** = maybe they should be westernized after the GW2? (If USA wins GW2 [in the game])

I think Gathenhielm has partially started something like this... However, I don't think he's finito.

The Arab League sounds better ;). Well mayb Iraq can not initially join wen the league forms, and the League take back iraq for its ppl :D.

About the airbases, their could be "The Arab League expels US airbase's" events


im just itching to start a new thread and create another country :p
 
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Why don't one of you do the Stan-alliance (name needed), includedes all the stan's except Paki- and Afghanistan. Turkey aswell. The other the arab league. Didn't you start on something like the Gath? with Saladin II? you could always continue...

The State, Persia is formed in 2031, the Arab league should be formed partially because of Persia, and partially because of the west. The Stan-alliance should be an alliance against Persia and the Arab league, they're afraid they will be attacked.

If Persia or AL chooses no, the Stan-alliance won't form. They shouldn't unite just to protect against one of them.
 
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What's Omni?

And I don't think we need the Arabic name for it. It's a turkish people or something (the people in the most stan's).