i think we need to decide when mds will definitively separate from history if we want to create a decent storyline
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ok, it all sounds cool... but there are a lot of variables (maybe "a lot" isn't enough) we have to make up our minds about.
it's a looooong time from the last post in that thread, seems like noone said a single world after the decision to start in 1991.
Today, with the invasion of Iraq, we have a plenty of ways to make story go; but if we wait the end of the conflict we'll have one once again; i propose to have a great deterioration of relations between usa and russia with the founding of a great ammount of russian weapons in iraq that will lead to a us-russia (and maybe also china) war; turkey invades northern iraq and eu reacts
i repeat, this is just a possibility, maybe the worst one, but we do need a starting
it's a looooong time from the last post in that thread, seems like noone said a single world after the decision to start in 1991.
Today, with the invasion of Iraq, we have a plenty of ways to make story go; but if we wait the end of the conflict we'll have one once again; i propose to have a great deterioration of relations between usa and russia with the founding of a great ammount of russian weapons in iraq that will lead to a us-russia (and maybe also china) war; turkey invades northern iraq and eu reacts
i repeat, this is just a possibility, maybe the worst one, but we do need a starting
Well, I think if there is one more attack of an arab league member they might decide its time to do something about America. But right now, N. Korea is a possible direction toward finding a path towards World War.
Yeah. Isn't Iran the "third member" of the "axis of evil"? Maybe we should make a event wich makes Iran Persia again, and they try to win back all they ever had. They try to invade Iraq (if Iraq lose the GW2) etc.
Or we can say that Iran suddenly attacks USA when they invade Iraq. USA tries to get more allies, but everyone refuses because the USA decided to go without the UN in the war with Iraq.
At the same time N. Korea attacks S. Korea, so that USA can barely help them, and we could have a WW. We should have a world war outside of Europe this time, Europe won't fight each other again... Not after EU and stuff.
It does not make much sense I guess, but not all wars does so. GW2 is just one of them...
Or we can say that Iran suddenly attacks USA when they invade Iraq. USA tries to get more allies, but everyone refuses because the USA decided to go without the UN in the war with Iraq.
At the same time N. Korea attacks S. Korea, so that USA can barely help them, and we could have a WW. We should have a world war outside of Europe this time, Europe won't fight each other again... Not after EU and stuff.
It does not make much sense I guess, but not all wars does so. GW2 is just one of them...
I doubt modern day Russia would go into war against America so something should happen there first such as a military coup supported by the people who remember how strong Russia was with its large military in the soviet days.
Korean and Iraqi wars are all well and good but they are very small scale.
Maybe something with China- getting involved in Korea or something happening with that island it half owns.
Having wars plotted out isn't that important, the player will not follow the true course, there will be plenty of odd 'unplanned' wars.
I thought we were going to have a 'arab league'? (all Muslims usually except Turkey and sometimes Pakistan)
Korean and Iraqi wars are all well and good but they are very small scale.
Maybe something with China- getting involved in Korea or something happening with that island it half owns.
Having wars plotted out isn't that important, the player will not follow the true course, there will be plenty of odd 'unplanned' wars.
I thought we were going to have a 'arab league'? (all Muslims usually except Turkey and sometimes Pakistan)
Yep, I've always seen this situation as the tinder for the next WW. All we need is the spark.
I don't think China is a real power, though. They're huge, have a large population, but have no way to land that huge army on the shores of the USA, let alone supply it....
*Edit - Which makes them a regional power, but not a world power.
*Edit - Which makes them a regional power, but not a world power.
What about Turkey, they invade Iraq, which sets a massive split, after all, Turkey have probably one of the best funded armed forces in the world.
But I don't think USA could've invaded China either. And if the war is in China's backyard, China is far stronger than USA, unless the USA land their whole army. Still, China would've been superior in manpower.
Everyone agrees a WW outside of Europe?
Quite fun to plan World Wars, innit?
Everyone agrees a WW outside of Europe?
Quite fun to plan World Wars, innit?
It wouldnt be a world war, but it would be a hell of a war in Asia. And if India comes a long we have a possible nuclear war and all that. And India's army isnt that useless. Russia is in the neighbourhood. Australia will probably support USA. Indonesia maybe can join too... Ok I will calm down, but if we could get in all these countries it would be great.
Yeah. We'll start with the Korea conflict, and USA, Australia, India choose to join. India shouldn't join USA, if they do Pakistan should join China.
And Europe can watch this time
And Europe can watch this time
Manybe a Union of English Speaking nations v the world
...and i really need a reason for bringing back the Soviet union
...and i really need a reason for bringing back the Soviet union
Originally posted by Kevyinus
Manybe a Union of English Speaking nations v the world
i was thinking about a futuristic scenario (2200-....) that could be the natural sequel to mds, and this is the starting point (so it can be the "official" ending for mds):
after a long conflict vs australia and usa, china uses for the first time in history the HW (horizontal weapons) technology: long ranged missile launchers that shot horizontally instead of vertically, eluding the space shield every nation has. a nuclear hor missile erases great part of australia (i had this idea to explain terra incognita); usa reacts and shots a great ammount of hor mis, but due to launch errors, some hit russia; after some days russia shots everything she has into usa... the end of the world was very close to happend
in the same period, mexico and argentina, in need of space, create an allegiance to conquer all south america and maybe southern usa
india wants to take advantage of china's desperate situation
in middle east, iran returned to be persia (a lot of time before) and tries to rebuild the ancient empire (thank you mormegil for this idea)
great britain creates the new commonwealth, annexing canada and the ruins of australia, and returns to be the greatest naval power on earth
while the world is on fire, european scientists in a secret lab in poland work on "project grom", the weapon that will change the art of war forever
Originally posted by Kevyinus
Manybe a Union of English Speaking nations v the world
...and i really need a reason for bringing back the Soviet union
I'm with you on the Soviet thing. Maybe while the world war is on its height, the communists in Russia use the situation to win back power. Then the former USSR countries can choose to join.
In that case, move the capitol (single event) to Fars, to the ancient city of Persepolis.
Im agree on this, but not on the last part. Why should they even considering joining USSR? Off course it could be an event where they just refuse so the USSR get a reason to attack them.Originally posted by Mormegil
I'm with you on the Soviet thing. Maybe while the world war is on its height, the communists in Russia use the situation to win back power. Then the former USSR countries can choose to join.
In that case, move the capitol (single event) to Fars, to the ancient city of Persepolis.
Shame that we cant rename the city....
Only around 10% of the nation is actually communist, i think if they did begin massively raising troops unrest would swallow them. Though, the communists are a strong minority...
I don't think so. They would probalbly stand together in a war when another country invades. Ancient Greece is an example. Fighting each others, but when Persia invades, they allways join
And Gath:
If we are to make it in MDS, we'll just name it Persepolis, and start it as beeing a colony or a wery small city (I guess there's some small towns nearby). And then when the rebuild event arrives, we'll just add a lot of population.
I kinda wants that to happen in MDS. I'll make the events. However, when should it happen? I don't think it should happen too late, or else the city will grow too big. In the worst case, we'll just make some -5000 pop in Fars events, so that the city won't grow too big.
Just thinkin' about if there's planned any wars in the area.
And Gath:
If we are to make it in MDS, we'll just name it Persepolis, and start it as beeing a colony or a wery small city (I guess there's some small towns nearby). And then when the rebuild event arrives, we'll just add a lot of population.
I kinda wants that to happen in MDS. I'll make the events. However, when should it happen? I don't think it should happen too late, or else the city will grow too big. In the worst case, we'll just make some -5000 pop in Fars events, so that the city won't grow too big.
Just thinkin' about if there's planned any wars in the area.
Originally posted by Mormegil
If we are to make it in MDS, we'll just name it Persepolis, and start it as beeing a colony or a wery small city (I guess there's some small towns nearby). And then when the rebuild event arrives, we'll just add a lot of population.
i agree