Stopping Jigsaw vassals?

[ChrisFox]

Playing a game as the Roman Empire, and subsequently getting really tired of seeing Egypt start owning random provinces in Britannia, or Pontus owning random provinces in the middle of Africa. I've tried making vassal inheritance illegal the default for all and preventing them from switching away from it in the law files, but it still happens. This is a big killer in immersion and fun for me. I am not even talking about wars between them just straight up middle of Spain you'll see a little "Egypt" pop up. Is there any way to stop this and have vassals keep 'clean' borders?

 

[vukica]

First, you need to understand that vassal inheritance is a realm law. It works in the entire realm. So you can't stop your vassals from inheriting stuff from across the map.
Second, kings peace laws will only work on de jure realm.

Unfortunately fixing the border gore is nigh impossible. However in game setup rules you can at least set dejure drift to restricted. This way isolated provinces won't de jure drift EVER, which should five a slightly bigger chance for de jure lieges to recover their land.

 

[ChrisFox]

First, you need to understand that vassal inheritance is a realm law. It works in the entire realm. So you can't stop your vassals from inheriting stuff from across the map.
Second, kings peace laws will only work on de jure realm.

Unfortunately fixing the border gore is nigh impossible. However in game setup rules you can at least set dejure drift to restricted. This way isolated provinces won't de jure drift EVER, which should five a slightly bigger chance for de jure lieges to recover their land.

The kingdoms beneath the empire have their own one themselves. But yes, their laws don't seem to do much at all.

But that sucks. It really looks terrible and breaks immersion. I can't Roleplay out a nice game because there is no circumstance ever where Egypt will need to own Valladolid.

 

[schwarherz]

The kingdoms beneath the empire have their own one themselves. But yes, their laws don't seem to do much at all.

But that sucks. It really looks terrible and breaks immersion. I can't Roleplay out a nice game because there is no circumstance ever where Egypt will need to own Valladolid.

I understand you're talking about a different thing but...border gore is actually pretty immersive. Have you ever seen a historical map of the HRE? It's a mess.

 

[ChrisFox]

I understand you're talking about a different thing but...border gore is actually pretty immersive. Have you ever seen a historical map of the HRE? It's a mess.

If I was playing as something aside from the Roman Empire I could somewhat understand it, especially the HRE. But the HRE and Roman Empire as you must admit had different administrative structures. There was never any point where the ruler of Syria would've been given a random province in Gallia.

 

[ChrisFox]

Hmmmm, would it be possible to make a laws that prevents inheritance outside of the de-jure kingdom? Like, if such a situation were to happen it would give the lands to the liege instead? Its getting progressively more ridiculous and harder to combat. Its at the point now where vassal kingdoms in Anatolia are getting provinces in Britannia. I don't think those wars can be won.

 

[Ulicus]

Any war can be won with liberal use of console commands.

 

[ChrisFox]

Any war can be won with liberal use of console commands.

Except that some of the provinces use non-intuitive names.

 

[steampvnc1880]

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Provinces

A handy tool, especially the column called "Title ID"

 

[ChrisFox]

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Provinces

A handy tool, especially the column called "Title ID"

I know it exists, sorry to not be clear. Its just that its annoying to alt tab, and keep a browser open while playing. I only have one monitor. I know the norm now is two or three.

 

[vukica]

imprison OpponentID

Enforce Demands.

 

[bontanel]

Would it be possible do limit cognatic succession in imperial realms? Vassals with no male heirs will always adopt it. A large feudal realm should be a mess when it comes to internal borders but in a bureaucratic state the would be laws preventing this phenomenon.

 

[NakedBeast]

And I hoped you would tell a harrowing tale about vassals telling you that they want you to play a game.

 

[ChrisFox]

And I hoped you would tell a harrowing tale about vassals telling you that they want you to play a game.

They do want me to play a game, though.

 

[pottypie]

They do want me to play a game, though.

They want to play The Game

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