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According to the readme.txt for 1.05, quite simply:

There is no longer a badboy penalty for taking provinces from a pagan nation if you are european.

It doesn't say taking the capital province should be any different... but military annexation of a pagan nation still costs you 5 BB.

IMHO you should not get BB from forced annexation of pagan nations either.

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But still not optimally, necessarily. I think it should be reduced to the penalty that exists for annexing different-religion nations: 1 BB pt. Or maybe make a special case and assign 2. But 5 is altogether too much . . .
 

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But the overriding theme of the text, and the broader scope of the game, is that Europeans should feel free to conquer pagan nations without worrying about other nations getting mad at them for doing so.

This obviously is not the case. Instead, with the current design, a sort of "reservation" system is encouraged, where each tribe is isolated around its capital and the country vassalized.

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Well, if this is working as intended why not tell people about it in the readme.txt file? I almost blew a whole game and AAR because I didn't know about this detail. I really don't like having to do dozens of experiments all the time to find out what the new rules really are. Frankly it PMO. Or it does when I screw up a whole game due to incomplete information.
 
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