Still even if the game is full of bug

[unmerged(87093)]

I m still having a lot of fun. I know at the end they will fix all the stupid bug we all complaining about. But so far kind of a cool game. I m playing Rome dont like the big bug about attrition, ping pong with the barbarian and some other bug (Didnt want to say to many bug ) did i say that !!! oups. Ah well, at end the game is out ! Guess paradox did pretty well at least we have the game we been waiting for . AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS GAME BETTER. The more bug we are able to find the better the game will be at the end


Hope this will give a boost to all paradox fan


SATORIUS

 

[Jayavarman]

You have boosted me.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Yeah, Rome will be in a solid state in no time. For an initial release, it is fairly solid.

 

[TheDarkside]

I am having great time with Rome! I can't really say any bugs are really, well, bugging me. Everything seems fine so far. Very stable game that's for sure- no CTDs yet

 

[kstanb]

Yeah, Rome will be in a solid state in no time. For an initial release, it is fairly solid.

That is true, but really with all the learning experiences Paradox has had with other titles (DV, EU3, EU3-NA, HOI2), I was expecting a lot more.

Rome will become solid, but mainly due to the effort of the modding community.

 

[comagoosie]

I am having great time with Rome! I can't really say any bugs are really, well, bugging me. Everything seems fine so far. Very stable game that's for sure- no CTDs yet

ditto, no CTDs. I am loving Rome and I am sure that in no time, it will be a polished game too.

 

[unmerged(19975)]

I shall own it soon.

Regards,

Grell

 

[Bertouch]

. AND WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS GAME BETTER. The more bug we are able to find the better the game will be at the end

That's what we pay Paradox for: a game that's going to be solid and thoroughly playable right out of the box. It isn't. You're certainly entitled to believe otherwise, but shouting at me in capital letters to perk up and keep quiet about the problems in the game isn't going to be very successful. I expect that, like other Paradox releases I've paid for, this one will be highly playable around the time the 1.3 or 1.4 patch shows up. I'll wait until then, and I have helped out with the wishlist of fixes--have you?--but if you're trying to tell me what to think and do, I'm not about to follow what I perceive as your orders. Sorry.

 

[lucaluca]

That's what we pay Paradox for: a game that's going to be solid and thoroughly playable right out of the box. It isn't. You're certainly entitled to believe otherwise, but shouting at me in capital letters to perk up and keep quiet about the problems in the game isn't going to be very successful. I expect that, like other Paradox releases I've paid for, this one will be highly playable around the time the 1.3 or 1.4 patch shows up. I'll wait until then, and I have helped out with the wishlist of fixes--have you?--but if you're trying to tell me what to think and do, I'm not about to follow what I perceive as your orders. Sorry.

did you ever play other strategy games or other paradox games out of the box? Rome is by far one of their best releases, solid and polished. Some of what you call major bug are not at all major to me and some are design decisions rather than bugs...

 

[unmerged(98681)]

To the last comment, Ive played so many strategy games out of the box, and not to bash paradox to much, a lot of their games come out needing a lot of work....

IMO Rome is stable, but has a lot of bugs... A lot of these should of been seen from even a short beta test IMO.

 

[Bertouch]

did you ever play other strategy games or other paradox games out of the box? Rome is by far one of their best releases, solid and polished. Some of what you call major bug are not at all major to me and some are design decisions rather than bugs...

First off, I never called anything in this thread a major bug, so how could something I never referred to be a design decision? Why are putting words in my mouth?

For the rest: yes, I've played Viccy, EU2, and EU3, and am playing CK/DV to wait for Rome to get some more patches. Have you read the other threads in the forum? The huge complaints about armies 1/10th the size or less destroying their enemies? The rebels that acquire so much instant research they are literally centuries ahead of anybody else? The way national ideas don't affect national bonuses? No--I'm not looking for individual comments on each of these. I'm just trying to make an overall point: these threads exist. They can't be easily ignored. The game is severely damaged goods at this moment. Many of the numbers don't work, combat is way off, and a lot of bizarre things happen in the game. I have no doubt it will eventually become a strong addition to a fine lineup, but it's far from there yet, in my modest opinion.

 

[unmerged(61606)]

You forgot the "s" every time. It is bugs, not bug.

Playing the downloaded version, I have not experienced any CTD bug.

 

[unmerged(72480)]

First off, I never called anything in this thread a major bug, so how could something I never referred to be a design decision? Why are putting words in my mouth?

For the rest: yes, I've played Viccy, EU2, and EU3, and am playing CK/DV to wait for Rome to get some more patches. Have you read the other threads in the forum? The huge complaints about armies 1/10th the size or less destroying their enemies? The rebels that acquire so much instant research they are literally centuries ahead of anybody else? The way national ideas don't affect national bonuses? No--I'm not looking for individual comments on each of these. I'm just trying to make an overall point: these threads exist. They can't be easily ignored. The game is severely damaged goods at this moment. Many of the numbers don't work, combat is way off, and a lot of bizarre things happen in the game. I have no doubt it will eventually become a strong addition to a fine lineup, but it's far from there yet, in my modest opinion.

I've read the other threads in the forum. Other than than the research bug introduced in 1.1 and a civil war event that seems a little haywire, I wouldn't call EU-Rome a buggy mess or damaged goods. What I see are a bunch of people crying and moaning that the game wasn't designed to their exact specs or that they don't win each and every game. This game has one major bug (research) and a few minor things that need to be tweaked. The game is definately not damaged goods. Nor is it the buggy mess that you portray it to be. Seems to me you just don't like the way it was designed. That's up to you but giving the impression that this is one huge bugfest of a game is wrong. It's not like that at all and you do a huge disservice to fellow gamers by portraying it that way.

 

[Bertouch]

Since you and I seem to be reading two very different forums, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then.

 

[hanzo]

satorius wanted to boost us, and already you turned this thread into a shouting match like all the other threads in the Rome forum, I'm disappointed in you paradox forumites

And yeah this is a good game

 

[unmerged(7192)]

I bought the game and I like it. I wish there were a few real historical events, but I imagine there will be a mod for that kind of thing.

The yellow blob in the east looks overpowered right now, but that kind of thing can be tuned out.

 

[unmerged(72480)]

Since you and I seem to be reading two very different forums, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then.

Guess we will because what I read are people who either don't understand the way some parts of the game work or aren't happy with the way in which it was designed. Nowhere have I read that this game is damaged goods or such a bugfest that it's unplayable. Since we don't seem to be reading the same forums maybe you can point me to the discussions that show beyond a doubt how buggy and unplayable this game is. You'll have a very difficult time convincing me because after modding the research bug and fixing the civil war event, I've been playing this game for a solid two weeks without any problems. That just wouldn't be possible if it was as bugridden as you make it out to be. The problem isn't that the game is bugridden. The problem is that people aren't happy with the way in which it was designed. Big difference.

 

[Bertouch]

satorius wanted to boost us, and already you turned this thread into a shouting match like all the other threads in the Rome forum, I'm disappointed in you paradox forumites

Um, meaning no offense, but did you actually read my posts? Because if you did, you'll see I just turned down the opportunity to engage in a shouting match with my post right above yours. It's called having an opinion of your own, while respecting the right for somebody else to have a completely different one. And if you're disappointed in "paradox forumites," I'm a bit disappionted in being required to change my feelings to suit somebody else about a game, just because I'm told to. I prefer a range of free, open, differing opinions, uttered with respect, but without coercion.

Since we don't seem to be reading the same forums maybe you can point me to the discussions that show beyond a doubt how buggy and unplayable this game is.

But why? I mean, you feel one way, and I feel another. I'm reading threads that prove one thing, you're reading threads that prove the opposite. Clearly if I name off threads that I feel make my point, you'll argue each one of these, and probably pull posts to make your point--and I would do the same. Which would end with you and I being no more enlightened than we currently are, but probably a good deal less even-tempered.

One other point: I never anywhere said the game was unplayable. Please, don't try to build a straw man, here, and attack me by using it. The game's buggy and needs a great deal of adjusting, and there are aspects of it that aren't yet implemented despite showing up on the interface. But unplayable? Hardly.

 

[unmerged(85598)]

Um, meaning no offense, but did you actually read my posts? Because if you did, you'll see I just turned down the opportunity to engage in a shouting match with my post right above yours. It's called having an opinion of your own, while respecting the right for somebody else to have a completely different one. When you feel you can do the same, feel free to write me, again.

I think he's referring more to how confrontationally you responded to the lines "WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER. The more bugs we find, the better the game will be at the end."

Perhaps I'm in the minority on this point, but I don't really find a call to improve the game as shouting at you to keep quiet about the problems, or to tell you what to think and do.

You have a right to your opinion, but it shouldn't come as a surprise when people respond poorly to negative comments in a moral-building thread.

 

[Bertouch]

I think he's referring more to how confrontationally you responded to the lines "WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER. The more bugs we find, the better the game will be at the end."

Perhaps I'm in the minority on this point, but I don't really find a call to improve the game as shouting at you to keep quiet about the problems, or to tell you what to think and do.

You have a right to your opinion, but it shouldn't come as a surprise when people respond poorly to negative comments in a moral-building thread.

I'm admittedly a bit confused. I'm told there are no threads attacking the game, so why do we need a moral-building thread, at all? If everybody loves Rome, then there's no need for a thread defending it.

Yet if there are threads attacking the state of the game, then this thread was created to somehow defend it by telling us all how to behave. It's a well-intentioned idea, but I think it goes over the top. Nobody here is a troll, on either side of this issue. But there are going to be some people making very expressive points about issues in Rome, and telling them to keep quiet isn't the best way to get that information out in the open.

To expand a bit upon this point: perhaps some people are misinterpreting legit criticisms of the game from others who have played Paradox titles for years. These are seen as ugly slams from trolls; and these aren't the same thing. It seems to me a matter of degree. Some people are being very forthright in their comments about the title, and that kind of thing is grist to Johan's mill in making his future patches. Others don't like this approach, and they're entitled to their opinion, too. Having one law that tells us all how to express ourselves is going to cause friction, when the best law is simply to be civilized and open when speaking with others.