As Designed Stellaris - Stellaris - v3.0.2 - Indentured Slaves taking specialist master jobs

[Krakenheim]

Description
Stellaris - v3.0.2 - Indentured Slaves taking specialist master jobs

Game Version
Dick v3.0.2 (91c1)

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?


Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Indentured Slaves are occupying specialist jobs belonging to masters and once there the positions are only filled by Indentured Slaves, can get masters pop back into the jobs notice that in the last 2 screenshots some wired worker pop movement occurs when IIadd pops to specialist jobs.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Simply start a necrophage game, make your slaves indentured and shuffle the specialist jobs.

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[abregado]

From a quick glance in the game files, this behavior should be expected and I suspect it is working "as intended".
Slaves (of all kinds) are twice as likely to be selected for Artisan and Metallurgist jobs as free citizen pops. Slaves also have a 0.8 modifier to being selected for Researcher jobs. Any pop already in the Metallurgist job will have a x5 modifier for being selected for that job. So your slaves will not displace your free pops unless you change the job configuration.

Good news is that this is actually very powerful, especially with the 3.0 Dick changes to the number of Metallurgist jobs and automatic pop migration. Slaves demote to lower job stratums instantly, so you can swap your economy around much faster with them.

 

[Feedback_Drone [Qloc]]

Hello!

Thank you for the report!
This is working as designed.

 

[Krakenheim]

If this is working as intended them Indentured Slave just become useless. The point of having them is so that slaves can fill the jobs NOT filled by masters. And if they do not take the jobs of occupied slots, they will take the place of masters in newly created jobs. Playing as necrophage you tend to make your slave races good as workers as your masters will have worker penalties, now the game is forcing your masters to do worker jobs. How can this be good ?

 

[Archael90]

Im nowhere near expert here, but isn't that slaves are here to take job to make it more effective? And different slave types are designed for different needs?

 

[abregado]

My guess on why it is like this:
With regular non-necrophage empires, your slaves will displace non-slave pops in the Worker Stratum so that those non-slave pops can move up to Specialists or be unemployed workers gaining living standard benefits. This is also why non-droid robots have a x200 mod on worker job weight (better because happiness and habitability do not effect them).

Necrophage takes this one step further in that your Necro pops want to move up to Rulers so to promote the Indentured servitude playstyle, so a small malus to job weight was added to them for specialist jobs.

Slaves tend to have both more bonuses and more specialised ones. Plus being able to demote to a lower stratum instantly is INCREDIBLY powerful. Seems legit.

 

[Archael90]

My guess on why it is like this:
With regular non-necrophage empires, your slaves will displace non-slave pops in the Worker Stratum so that those non-slave pops can move up to Specialists or be unemployed workers gaining living standard benefits. This is also why non-droid robots have a x200 mod on worker job weight (better because happiness and habitability do not effect them).

Necrophage takes this one step further in that your Necro pops want to move up to Rulers so to promote the Indentured servitude playstyle, so a small malus to job weight was added to them for specialist jobs.

Slaves tend to have both more bonuses and more specialised ones. Plus being able to demote to a lower stratum instantly is INCREDIBLY powerful. Seems legit.

Maybe its true for necrophage, but all indenture servitude slaves should have slighlty higher weight for specjalista jobs, so they can replace citizens, so they can take advantage from living standards benefits (because slaves cant).