Stellaris - Player dragged by AI into Offensive War

[jokmontoya]

Description
Player dragged by AI into Offensive War

Game Version
2.8.1 (dfce)

What version do you use?
Steam

What expansions do you have installed?
Synthetic Dawn, Utopia, Leviathans Story Pack, Apocalypse, Megacorp, Distant Stars, Ancient Relics, Lithoids, Federations

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
I have been dragged into an offensive war by an AI faction, my only treaty with the attacker was an Non Aggression Pact and and a Trade treaty. Suddenly I have a popup saying that I have accepted an invitation to an aggression war.

I have not missclicked any popup

I was playing an egalitarian + materialistic + militaristic nation surrounded by 3 xenophobic + spiritual/authoritarian, 1 year after being forced into war. My others neighbors declares war on me, I am fckd. Meanwhile the nation that started this all is doing a very poor job, what a nonsense. I am going to be crushed in this war, surrounded by 3 times my actual naval force.
I was playing an Ironman game, I have no save game from before the issue.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1. Play the game as normal.
2. Be pulled into an offensive war by the AI at random times.

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[hart30]

Did u have the same rivals as the ai / claims lile the ai on the enemy empire? That is most times enough to be invited. And as it currently stands overseeing the small vote for war popup is counted as "yes". I really dont know why they changed it from autodecline to autoaccept.

 

[jokmontoya]

Did u have the same rivals as the ai / claims lile the ai on the enemy empire? That is most times enough to be invited. And as it currently stands overseeing the small vote for war popup is counted as "yes". I really dont know why they changed it from autodecline to autoaccept.

I didn't have any claim or rivals with any of my neighbors. I was very stretched to reach chokepoints, surrounded by enemies and trying to keep a low profile while building my defensive fleet.

If something like an unexpected invitation from somebody, that is not my ally or federated partner, asking me to join an offensive war is on autoaccept, I think it is very wrong.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

That said, be it a bug or intention, auto-accepting requests not specifically denied is how it currently works. So its not random at all (you were asked by an AI, you didn't respond, and so it auto-accepted for you), but it is undesired.

I'd urge the devs to change this behavior, as it causes lots of undesired scenarios like this one.

 

[jokmontoya]

Random, at least, in the sense that I did nothing to instigate such request.
And no request popped asking to accept or deny, but I can not be sure is there was one of that small notifications symbols on the top of the screen that expired
unnoticed.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

They can take the form of those small notifications at the screen, so you probably just missed it. And sure, that definition of random is fair enough.

 

[jokmontoya]

I have started another game.
I have just received one invitation to War Declaration, this time with the proper popup.
The tool tip says that it will be "automatically declined". As I understand it, a declined proposal should not be read as "accepted".

This time I am not playing in Irongame mode, I'll save and let it expire.

 

[jokmontoya]

Tested, it is accepted when "automatically declined".

I don't know if this is a bug or it is working as intended.

 

[jokmontoya]

If I reload the saved game, the notification has disappeared. I can not invoke the popup and I can not vote yes or no, but I am still dragged to the war.
I have reloaded an autosave 1 month before the invitation and this time I was invited to join this aggressive war a year later and without any popup, only the notification.

I want to clarify that this time the invitation could be expected, because I have a friendly relation with the aggressor and a defensive treaty. But due to "declining" meaning "yes", missing notification icon after a reload or an omitted popup when invited ( I think this happened because another notification popped at the same time) it is very easy to be dragged to an undesired war.

 

[Mímisbrunnr]

Well, its doing the opposite of what it say, so one way or the other its clearly a bug.

 

[wolkenwand]

If I reload the saved game, the notification has disappeared. I can not invoke the popup and I can not vote yes or no, but I am still dragged to the war.
I have reloaded an autosave 1 month before the invitation and this time I was invited to join this aggressive war a year later and without any popup, only the notification.

I want to clarify that this time the invitation could be expected, because I have a friendly relation with the aggressor and a defensive treaty. But due to "declining" meaning "yes", missing notification icon after a reload or an omitted popup when invited ( I think this happened because another notification popped at the same time) it is very easy to be dragged to an undesired war.

I have same issue but too lazy to report this, basically i have save the game when the war proposal is blinking and im not answering yet, when loading the game the proposal is disappear so i can't reject the offer, and later the war is declared and i dragged into it.