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[barny]

Well lets be fair, 70% of his problems come from angering a FE and not exploring all the anomalies

Also, it seems like he is not really far behind on ship tech, this is more an issue of a high number of players on a small Galaxy Map. So having a ship tech more can be pretty important.

He basically had a lot of bad luck with techs it seems, which can be one of the weak points of the "card deck system" they use.

 

[McDog]

Well lets be fair, 70% of his problems come from angering a FE and not exploring all the anomalies

Also, it seems like he is not really far behind on ship tech, this is more an issue of a high number of players on a small Galaxy Map. So having a ship tech more can be pretty important.

He also selected a Tundra start in a failed attempt to collude with Quill. The dude will do anything for an advantage and when it fails.......

 

[Fossa]

He basically had a lot of bad luck with techs it seems, which can be one of the weak points of the "card deck system" they use.

Well bad luck and salt from bad min maxing.

 

[Beric]

He basically had a lot of bad luck with techs it seems, which can be one of the weak points of the "card deck system" they use.

Not a weakness with the system, it's a weakness with his strategy. A good strategy is adaptive to changing circumstances and has multiple contingencies. Arumba sounded like he was counting too much on getting certain specific techs. With this type of tech system, that's very risky.

 

[cedi]

The blorg are at it again. (of much for the impartiality of the blork.)

https://twitter.com/cKnoor/status/727623939971796996

 

[ashbery76]

Conquering the galaxy with uplifted cockroaches from Sol.Must be done.

 

[Fossa]

Not a weakness with the system, it's a weakness with his strategy. A good strategy is adaptive to changing circumstances and has multiple contingencies. Arumba sounded like he was counting too much on getting certain specific techs. With this type of tech system, that's very risky.

Lot of bad luck too. He was stuck on corvettes when others had cruiser tech due to the card not showing up.

 

[Fipse]

Lot of bad luck too. He was stuck on corvettes when others had cruiser tech due to the card not showing up.

I think a lot of other players are also stuck on corvettes. Like I said, an issue with the Galaxy being so small for so many players. In a "normal" game you would have more time to get the tech.

 

[Vahouth]

Well lets be fair, 70% of his problems come from angering a FE and not exploring all the anomalies

True, but his feedback was not about the FE.

Also, it seems like he is not really far behind on ship tech, this is more an issue of a high number of players on a small Galaxy Map. So having a ship tech more can be pretty important.

This is not the small Galaxy Map. They said it has1000 stars.

 

[bas198]

Conquering the galaxy with uplifted cockroaches from Sol.Must be done.

Were cockroaches uplifted during the stream? If so at what time, would like to see that

 

[Beric]

This is not the small Galaxy Map. They said it has1000 stars.

1000 stars for 22 player empires, some AI empires in the mix, fallen empires, and primitives and you're starting to talk about a pretty packed place.

 

[Vahouth]

1000 stars for 22 player empires, some AI empires in the mix, fallen empires, and primitives and you're starting to talk about a pretty packed place.

I recall seeing even from the Blorg stream that on a Huge Galaxy (1000) there can be as many as 40 or 50 races without including the FEs.
The issue may be that most of them started clustered up together as you can even see from the stream. The Western part of the Galaxy is almost empty.

 

[Fossa]

Were cockroaches uplifted during the stream? If so at what time, would like to see that

Nope. To uplift you have to colonize the planet 1st and they dont have that tech. Yet.

 

[apoc527]

I believe this was a "clustered start" on purpose too. I could be wrong, but thought I heard Wiz and cKnoor talking about that.

 

[Vahouth]

Nope. To uplift you have to colonize the planet 1st and they dont have that tech. Yet.

They mentioned that they could send robots, but I don't know how that would work.

 

[Sopot]

They mentioned that they could send robots, but I don't know how that would work.

When you create a colony ship, you decide which type of pop will be in it, to colonise that world, they need to use robot pops, which they don't have yet.

 

[ashbery76]

They mentioned that they could send robots, but I don't know how that would work.

Robots can colonize any planet.They need the tech first.

 

[Fossa]

They mentioned that they could send robots, but I don't know how that would work.

Well I think they need the tech for colonizing tomb worlds to even send a colony ship there. The reason to use robots is because tomb worlds have 0 % habitability for all the species.

 

[Diwtop]

The issue may be that most of them started clustered up together as you can even see from the stream. The Western part of the Galaxy is almost empty.

I recall seeing even from the Blorg stream that on a Huge Galaxy (1000) there can be as many as 40 or 50 races without including the FEs.
The issue may be that most of them started clustered up together as you can even see from the stream. The Western part of the Galaxy is almost empty.

Can we choose if the startup
is clustered or not?

 

[ahhheygao]

I thought that this must be the case, but I remember a thread way back where people claimed that Hyperdrive ships are easily ambushed, because they move on a predetermined path. But I just couldn't see it happening for 3 reasons.
1) The enemy has no idea which systems are connected, unless he also uses hyperlanes, or research.

An astute player can observe hyperlane neighbors' civilian ship pathing, though I suppose a cunning and cautious opponent can also mislead with ruses by purposely going the long way. Light skirmishes also will reveal hyperlane connectivity fairly quickly, so decisive engagement right off the bat is something I'd avoid initially when fighting against hyperlane empires.

2) Ships fitted with Hyperdrives are WAY faster than anything else.

Indeed, quill18 said hyperlane ships ran circles around his worm hole ships. Their "cooldown" mainly occurs during start-up, but I suspect that can be somewhat bypassed by using emergency yump to bug out quickly.

3) Their cooldown is relatively fast and they don't have to be in the Outer Edges of a System in order to leave it. So, they also enter&exit systems faster than anyone else.

The whole point of the ambush remarks was that opponents can figure out exactly where hyperlane ships must come from, so opponents can amass all of their ships near the borders for intercept.