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I dont get this first world spoiled brat attitude. To me game is complete and enjoyable. Every future addition is cherry on top. Dont even mention comparison to other 4x on release, many of them were barely playable.
 
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To me it's not.

Will I get my money back?

Sure. Tell Paradox "I dislike this, this, this, this, and this, I'm massively outraged, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me". And they'll refund it to you. If you bought it through the store, of course, not if they can't do anything about it.

Then again, you don't want a refund, do you? This is just an outburst of entertaining Internet outrage and you're trying to collect all the reasons for you to be outraged (just added "I won't even get a refund!" for ultimate outrage).
 
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Believe it or not, not everyone likes games where after 300 hours of gameplay you still cant figure out what the hell certain numbers or statistics mean. Simplicity is indeed a virtue, and the explicit intent of the developers was to avoid a Victoria 2 style game that nobody outside Paradox' fanboy demographic could possibly comprehend.

Simple interface =/= simple game. If the interface is the main source of confusion, that's just fake difficulty.

Another argument thrown around is that Paradox has always done this, so it's okay now. That's just idiotic. They priced it 40€, so it deserve to be rated like a 40€ game.
 

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Strange take on consumer rights. My product is not working as intended and below standards, but no refund...


It isn't working to your standards but in many other peoples minds, it is working as intended and is a complete game. It isn't a strange take to not cater to peoples opinions
 
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Sure. Tell Paradox "I dislike this, this, this, this, and this, I'm massively outraged, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me". And they'll refund it to you. If you bought it through the store, of course, not if they can't do anything about it.

Then again, you don't want a refund, do you? This is just an outburst of entertaining Internet outrage.

I do actually want a refund.

And you're overstepping the line, I've apologised for my indiscretion in retaliation to yours, the least you could do is keep a civil tongue.

Why, what's wrong with your product?

I'll get into it here if you're actually asking.
 
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I'll get into it here if you're actually asking.

Please do.
Just note that just because you dislike something that doesn't mean it's not working as intended. I just means that you have a different taste then us, but that doesn't mean you are entitled to a refund. You had plenty of opportunities to check the game out on YT and on twitch before buying it.
 
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Please do.

Stuck in a neverending war that my ally started, but he won't make peace even though we've been at 100% for decades. (Know of others with same issue)

I've had policies that didn't unlock because a country_flag failed to fire, I had to go into the game files myself to fix it, and even then I don't know what else the country_flag affects so I can't be sure if I've done it right. (Also know of others with same issue, through this forum)

And then there are the (commonly expressed) less objective issues of sectors and ethics diverge being a mess.
 
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So that's 2 bugs and 2 things you think should have done differently.

Well that makes Stellaris basically a war crime.
 
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Stuck in a neverending war that my ally started, but he won't make peace even though we've been at 100% for decades.

I've had policies that didn't unlock because a country_flag failed to fire, I had to go into the game files myself to fix it, and even then I don't know what else the country_flag affects so I can't be sure if I've done it right.

And then there are the (commonly expressed) less objective issues of sectors and ethics diverge being a mess.

Bugs do not mean it isn't working, bugs exist in all newly released video games.
 

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Stuck in a neverending war that my ally started, but he won't make peace even though we've been at 100% for decades. (Know of others with same issue)
It's called a bug. Every game has them at release.
I've had policies that didn't unlock because a country_flag failed to fire, I had to go into the game files myself to fix it, and even then I don't know what else the country_flag affects so I can't be sure if I've done it right. (Also know of others with same issue, through this forum)
A minor bug.
And then there are the (commonly expressed) less objective issues of sectors and ethics diverge being a mess.
2 features that you think should work otherwise.

So where is the problem with the product then? I get it that you're annoyed by these minor bugs but they are not game breaking, and paradox already released 2 hotfixes, and a 3rd one is on it's way.

I'm on my third campaign right now, I lost the first one, and won the second. I think the game works just fine.
 
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Did you buy any new video games so far? EVERY one has bugs on release.

I'll be honest I must have lucked out, CK2 and EU4 were spotless on release for me.

Hell, even Fallout 4 and GTA 5 (PC) went without a hitch.

Looks like my luck ran out here.

EDIT: That's not to dignify what you said as an excuse, all you're saying is that that releasing sub-optimal products is an industry standard. It's hardly a defence.

(To overuse my analogy "What are you talking about? Every tent we say has a small rip in it.")
 
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