Lol. After 2.0 it is very dangerous to pre order something from stellaris, dont u think, guys? Wanna at least fix crappy bugs and balance of current version before asking money for next?
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The pack will be released with the 2.1 update. Certainly judge that update and the final 2.0.x update on their merits before getting this story pack though if you think that's best. Choice of when/if to buy another DLC is still yours and always will be.
I'll probably pre-order this at some stage, no rush for a new wallpaper or avatar though, so I'll wait for a few DD's and see how things shape up before doing so.
I have no probs with them saying what's coming up either. Looking forward to it, also looking forward to the current issues being ironed out.
Point being this DLC and working on bug fixes and QoL interface updates aren't mutually exclusive.
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many posts here saying that we are unhappy with this because the base game is not working as it should, and many counter posts mansplaining that there are different teams working these things.
i want to clarify my own position, i don't think Paradox should be releasing anything new while the base game is not working as it should, i understand that there are writers making content separate from the guys doing the coding, and i don't want them to stop doing the creative stuff, i just don't want them to release it right now.
i just think the people at the top need to realise that by chucking out more content when there is a large amount of currently unhappy fans is not going to make those unhappy fan happy again. I think they need to communicate more effectively with us and acknowledge the problems they have created and explain what they plan to do to fix the game up.
does that make sense?
i want to clarify my own position, i don't think Paradox should be releasing anything new while the base game is not working as it should, i understand that there are writers making content separate from the guys doing the coding, and i don't want them to stop doing the creative stuff, i just don't want them to release it right now.
i just think the people at the top need to realise that by chucking out more content when there is a large amount of currently unhappy fans is not going to make those unhappy fan happy again. I think they need to communicate more effectively with us and acknowledge the problems they have created and explain what they plan to do to fix the game up.
does that make sense?
they are constantly doing bug fixes, you do know that they can do both bug fixes and doing updates on story etc. Also you do know that every game has bugs and is constantly being worked on while being updated with story etc
Please don't join the race to be the most easily offended human. It will only lead to your own unhappiness.
I would like to, for the record, state that to my awareness this is nothing new for Paradox games going back to EU3 at least, it's just that as the age of DLC has gained steam and more and more games rely less on wide audiences and more devoted fanbases being willing to chuck money in, things like this become the main way to make the most bang for your buck.
I'm not happy about it, but that doesn't mean it's going to change anytime soon.
I get what your saying, but it's also a more nuanced opinion and my experience is that nuance rarely gets accepted and merely gets attacked by both sides of an argument or debate (or small things get picked out of it)
I mean, as someone did in fact state, they can have teams doing multiple things at once, but the main thing to always remember at the end of the day is that Paradox is a business and as I've seen plenty of times in enough of these threads, there is always, ALWAYS going to be a far larger number of people who will, at least at the end of the day even with complaints, end up purchasing whatever new thing is being offered up. I knew and expected there would be bugs and issues with the new Apocalypse expansion and the changes to both warfare and space travel, and was not surprised to find such things. But I (and many others) still ended up buying it.
Paradox needs to make money to pay the writers who are doing lots of stuff for the story packs, so even if they COULD decide to hold such things back, they are instead going to prefer to make the money NOW and then wait.
I know that when you do updates for bugged functionality, you get more of bugged functionality.
And I find a bit insulting that these guys come to players for more money, while they are not finished with delivery of quality product for their previous money.
Looks awesome. The story element of Stellaris is what sets it apart from other simillar games in my opinion.
I totally get that with regard to the new content in the DLC itself, but some of what's coming in the free update seems centered on tweaking the mechanics introduced 2.0 so that they function better. In that sense, some of the "new" mechanics here are really just supplements and extensions of the 2.0 changes. Things like the clustered hyperlanes, the anomaly tracker, anomaly fail risk, and science ships being able to partly get around hyperlane restrictions are all part of that. Obviously bug fixes are part of that too, but that's always a given.
I don't see 2.1 as them jumping ahead, I see it as ironing out 2.0.
Hi Jin,
I think we are all agreeing because we are all talking to distant stars paid for story pack, not the 2.1 patch. 2.1 patch looks like its going to include a few important bits that they were not able to finish for 2.0, sure i remember Wiz talking about hyper lanes cutting things off for 2.0 but i guess the ran out of time (understandably because it was massive!)
I think we are all agreeing because we are all talking to distant stars paid for story pack, not the 2.1 patch. 2.1 patch looks like its going to include a few important bits that they were not able to finish for 2.0, sure i remember Wiz talking about hyper lanes cutting things off for 2.0 but i guess the ran out of time (understandably because it was massive!)
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If this story pack will contain ethos based events for players AND AI, I will pay anything for it and I might even throw in my firstborn.