AoD's Old Geezer
- Dec 23, 2005
One game where it seems generally to work reasonably well is HoI4 - and I think that is in part a model for the team, here. "Intelligence" in HoI4 is mostly about just that - intelligence about the enemy. The "offensive" operations generally are either about increasing the intel level, "stealing" technology (one of the poorer parts of the system, tbh) or supporting resistance movements that are already present (but not as dangerous as you can make them by supporting and supplying them). A potentially problematic part of the system is the fomenting of "coups", but that comes with significant preconditions which limits its application.Don't get me wrong, I am interested like everyone – some of this stuff sounds very cool – and will happily play it with an open mind, however, it seems a little lofty to expect Stellaris to succeed where all I've seen in other games has been seriously underwhelming. (If anyone disagrees and can think of a game with an espionage system that is fun & engaging even when you're the one being targeted, do let me know; I would love to be wrong here.)
I agree with others who say that some level of "fog of war" and uncertainty is good, but it's good for the active party as well as the defender. One idea might be to have defensive "operations" like honey traps for active infiltrators. This might work as an "asset" that is made available to external agencies; if they look for an asset, they might get this instead. It's like a normal asset, but it reports back to the home counter-intelligence with details of operations it is used for and the intel level of the external agency it is attached to. An example of this would be the "gestapo officer" that was used by MI5 in the Second World War. Many of those with nazi sympathies in the UK were happy to report their "intelligence" to this individual, who was "known" in the circles in which nazi sympathisers moved as an agent of the Third Reich. Except that he worked for British Intelligence, who passed along the "intelligence" they gathered to the Abwehr via other channels where they thought it might be useful to the allied cause...