Stellaris Dev Diary #189 - Necroids 2.8 Patch Notes & Update

Stellaris Dev Diary #189 - Necroids 2.8 Patch Notes & Update

  • Crusader Kings III Available Now!

    The realm rejoices as Paradox Interactive announces the launch of Crusader Kings III, the latest entry in the publisher’s grand strategy role-playing game franchise. Advisors may now jockey for positions of influence and adversaries should save their schemes for another day, because on this day Crusader Kings III can be purchased on Steam, the Paradox Store, and other major online retailers.


    Real Strategy Requires Cunning

sillyrobot

Colonel
Jul 18, 2015
987
1.122
Only a few notes among all these relate to the community raised issues - the pathfinding fixes, and they sound quite secondary and non-ambitious... let's see whether they would restore the Crisis to its pre-"rework" level, at least.

So this was the reason why awakened FE's never declared war (except occasionally on genocidals)?
No significant balance fixes, it seems.
Automation issues remain, although I'm one of the people who doesn't mind micro that much.
War declarations are borked because of a bug that used you opinion of them as opposed of their opinion of you. I didn't see a fix specific to this, but there are more than a few and I may have missed it in my scan.
 
  • 1
Reactions:

MrFreake_PDX

Captain
Community Ambassador
Feb 20, 2020
388
1.606
War declarations are borked because of a bug that used you opinion of them as opposed of their opinion of you. I didn't see a fix specific to this, but there are more than a few and I may have missed it in my scan.
* The AI attitude of country A to B now depends on A's opinion of B rather than B's of A. This fixes Fallen Empires never declaring war.

You did :)
 
  • 15
  • 6
  • 3Like
Reactions:

sillyrobot

Colonel
Jul 18, 2015
987
1.122
These look fantastic.

My only complaint is there is no mention of fixes for consistant graphical bugs that have been persistant since 2.2, I'm not sure if they're flying under the radar or not truely gamebreaking and therefore not worth a programmer's time.

Not Literally Unplayable but it's pretty jarring looking at a lithoid cruiser with a big chunk of its bow floating up and away, or a plantoid defense station with mismatched textures.
Since we still get combat, planets, and stars occasionally showing up on the galaxy map (a bug that's lasted since... 1.1?), I have no confidence any graphical glitches get fixed.
 
  • 2
Reactions:

James Fire

Lt. General
50 Badges
Jan 30, 2018
1.412
501
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Magicka 2
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Cities: Skylines - Campus
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Semper Fi
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Majesty 2 Collection
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Divine Wind
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
It's a start; frankly not nearly enough to pull me back to the game nor what I'd expect after ~6months of work from the dev team, but it's something. We'll have to see what the "bigger" things you've been working on are.
Did you forget their 3 months of vacation?
 
  • 5
  • 1Like
Reactions:

Methone

Field Marshal
13 Badges
Oct 27, 2018
6.571
1.659
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
You can now only resettle your primary species away from planets with culture shock.
Just turn it back into a pop modifier. I don't know why you guys ever changed it away from that into a magical 'culture shock aura' in the planet's air or whatever.
Crisis AI will now be more likely to seek honorable alternatives to doomstacks (i.e. it will split its fleet up a bit more).
And will it actually expand? Because if not, then what's the point?
The AI attitude of country A to B now depends on A's opinion of B rather than B's of A. This fixes Fallen Empires never declaring war.
Cool. But what about Awakened Empires?
* Made sure clearing the blocker creates the correct species.
You know, I always did think it was funny that when my Rogue Servitors moved in to enlighten the last enclaves of their non-pampered organic creators, the result was more Servitors.
It is now possible for your ruler to be randomly given the trait Charismatic during their rule.
As neat as this is, this counts as a bugfix?

Overall, it's neat, and a good start, but only that.
 
Last edited:
  • 13
  • 3Like
  • 1
Reactions:

hart30

Lt. General
13 Badges
May 13, 2017
1.447
136
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall - Revelations
Collossus works for the ai again.
One case of fleet loops is stopped.
Fleet manager is finally fixed.
Even the end game crisis recrived a small improvement.

Thats more than i hoped for.
Now all annoying left is:
- greater than ourselves active causes popmigration to "free" jobs on crisis planets during purge process.
- mid game khan and grey storm not scaling with difficulty/crisis strength slider
- sector ai and planetary automation
- (of course military and crisis ai)

All in all i cannot wait for 2.8 to see the implemented fixes in action
 
  • 5
  • 2Like
  • 2
Reactions:

Methone

Field Marshal
13 Badges
Oct 27, 2018
6.571
1.659
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • 4Haha
  • 3
Reactions:

charliex3

First Lieutenant
15 Badges
Mar 19, 2020
236
714
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • 1Like
Reactions:

Tzunki

Corporal
66 Badges
May 10, 2017
35
61
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Season pass
  • Cities: Skylines - Campus
  • Cities: Skylines - Green Cities
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Mass Transit
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Prison Architect
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Premium edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Cities: Skylines - Natural Disasters
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Stellaris
And again no branch browser. It's a shame that no developer likes to play MegaCorps.
 
  • 12Like
Reactions:

Fampat

Second Lieutenant
80 Badges
Mar 5, 2018
168
237
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • BATTLETECH - Digital Deluxe Edition
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Surviving Mars: First Colony Edition
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Golden Century
  • Prison Architect
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • BATTLETECH: Season pass
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Deluxe edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Premium edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Season pass
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • BATTLETECH: Heavy Metal
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall - Revelations
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Magicka 2
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • BATTLETECH
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Age of Wonders III
It's a really great start...
We had enought "starts", its time for results, these are not the results one was expecting... the real issues hasnd been fixed... again... again... again...
 
  • 17
  • 11
  • 2Like
Reactions:

sillyrobot

Colonel
Jul 18, 2015
987
1.122
We had enought "starts", its time for results, these are not the results one was expecting... the real issues hasnd been fixed... again... again... again...
It's about or slightly more than I expected. Grekulf said nothing 'risky' or large was included before others started hyping the fixes.
 
  • 11
  • 1Like
Reactions:

FrancescoT

Field Marshal
Demi Moderator
50 Badges
Aug 8, 2009
7.826
564
42
  • Semper Fi
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • For the Motherland
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Surviving Mars
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • PDXCON 2018 "The Baron"
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • PDXCon 2019 "Baron"
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • BATTLETECH
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
Just turn it back into a pop modifier. I don't know why you guys ever changed it away from that into a magical 'culture shock aura' in the planet's air or whatever.
If I recall correctly, POP's modifiers are a performance killer.
 
  • 14
  • 6
  • 5Like
Reactions:

MrFreake_PDX

Captain
Community Ambassador
Feb 20, 2020
388
1.606
It's about or slightly more than I expected. Grekulf said nothing 'risky' or large was included before others started hyping the fixes.
I believe he said "add", as we were too close to Necroids release to do major changes. :)

However, the beta branch (when it becomes available) may have additional things that address some additional Community concerns. And yes, that's about as much of a non-answer as I can supply. :D
 
  • 8Like
  • 7
  • 3
Reactions:

Ridixo

Lt. General
On Probation
39 Badges
May 25, 2018
1.385
1.163
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Stellaris: Leviathans Story Pack
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Premium edition
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall - Revelations
  • Age of Wonders: Planetfall Season pass
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • BATTLETECH - Digital Deluxe Edition
  • BATTLETECH: Heavy Metal
  • BATTLETECH: Flashpoint
  • BATTLETECH: Season pass
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Warlock 2: The Exiled
Necroids will be released together with the 2.8 ‘Butler’ Update.
What Leonidas has to do with sci-fi? o_O

* Added new Gestalt Governor Leader Traits: Amplifier and Mindfulness - both increase Administrative Capacity in relevant Pop Jobs.
Good, very good :)

* Systems spawned during the game (e.g. precursor ones) will now usually have two hyperlanes instead of one.
Good, i suppose :/

* Greatly improved startup and load times. (Check dev diary 181 for more information)
Great :D

* Tick time optimization (more efficient parallelisation (game go vroom vroom)).
Great too :D

* Event Primordial Soup no longer wrongly assumes that Terminator machines think organic life worthy of interest.
Why can't a machine hellbent on exterminate all organic life don't appreciate it? :(
#Soullessemotionlessmachineshavefeeltooawarenessday :p

What i don't see is a solution to Shattered Ring Origin only spawning yellow stars, as reported here.
It's an easy fix, as said here. It would only require a dev caring for a few lines of code. Sad, what would be my favorite Origin is literally unplayable :(


I will cry of despair on some forgotten corner until the end comes and i be reborn as a Necroid :D
 
  • 5
  • 2Like
  • 1
Reactions: