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Btw looking at naval combat... could steel division pacific front be possible? It would be fun to play island hopping... tis would be a unique experience to most RTS games
 

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Personally id say france 40 poland 39 china japanese front winter war barbarossa 41 and bagration 44 need some attention...

However i will say Bagration can be balanced... the germans fielded the tanks the soviets had true.. but same can be said for normandy and the overwhelming corps/dividional level numerical superiority can be overlooked... in fact there would be greater proportion so long as numbers arent concerned as the soviets have the tools to pop king tigers... but ehh...

Eastern front wise id pay 50 bucks for a barbarossa 41 or bagration 44... kursk and stalingrad are the true normandies of the eastern front and are waaay overdone

However tbh... ww2 was lost by the battle of stalingrad... a victory at kursk would only have delayed the inevitable

Some are against bringing the Eastern Front to Steel Division, usually using the argument that it was "overdone". However as @gbem said Barbarossa and Bagration (the latter interests me most) are rarely seen in video games. Furthermore I trust Eugen for making a non-biased, historical version of a game taking place in the Eastern Front, which is rare in Western companies (Sega, Activision ;))
 

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Some are against bringing the Eastern Front to Steel Division, usually using the argument that it was "overdone". However as @gbem said Barbarossa and Bagration (the latter interests me most) are rarely seen in video games. Furthermore I trust Eugen for making a non-biased, historical version of a game taking place in the Eastern Front, which is rare in Western companies (Sega, Activision ;))

i am already very impressed with there non biased, historical normandy game and enjoy it a lot. which is what makes me want eastern front a lot!! because if they can make using panzer lehr and 12th SS fun against the garbage can force imagine how fun it would be to fight against USSR... maybe they can add sekrit division with T-44 :)
 

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but then you are looking at some massed sized maps the scale of total war campaigns or something.... Naval combat would be better to be its own game or its own game mode with just ships IMO. Would probably be quite a good game too.
 

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Why not Continuation War?
I'd love that ... but I'm afraid it would be too infantry-centric for most of the audience.

maybe they can add sekrit division with T-44 :)
W2 brings enough vehicles' diversity so we don't have to rely on such "prototypes".
SD44's biggest unicorn, the Locust, was combat ready and in the division's arsenal for Normandy, and engaged in combat later in the war (Operation Varsity). None of this was the case for the T-44.
Besides, USSR would offer a pretty wide array of units, even if we just consider Bagration. The KVs alone comes in quite a number of configurations!
 

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I'd love that ... but I'm afraid it would be too infantry-centric for most of the audience.


W2 brings enough vehicles' diversity so we don't have to rely on such "prototypes".
SD44's biggest unicorn, the Locust, was combat ready and in the division's arsenal for Normandy, and engaged in combat later in the war (Operation Varsity). None of this was the case for the T-44.
Besides, USSR would offer a pretty wide array of units, even if we just consider Bagration. The KVs alone comes in quite a number of configurations!
I thought there were reports of the Spetsnaz using it?
 

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Madeline, why do you make maps with rivers, given that you have a working amphibian?
You do not want to try adding river ships and railway units. In the realities of the second world they must fit into the gameplay ideally. I think they would have joined the RD on all the maps, if they had only limited themselves to the river class.
As a result, there might be compounds whose power would be spinning around the railway or the river, while they would not be useless in the other directions (river flotillas even had aviation in their composition).
 

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Did the Spetsnaz officially exist in 1944? I though they were a post-war creation, although from the experience using "special scouts" formations during WW2.
No, they didn't officially exist in WWII. It was a blanket term similarly used to the way it is used now to cover special forces troops. There have been some unofficial stories explaining that there were T-44's used along side them as a pseudo combat trial.
 

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Did the Spetsnaz officially exist in 1944? I though they were a post-war creation, although from the experience using "special scouts" formations during WW2.
It did, but it was called OSNAZ (ОСНАЗ, части ОСобого НАЗначения). They were used from Spanish civil war through all ww2 including winter war.
 

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I was thinking: since Steel Division: Bagration 44 would be adding soviet forces and Eugen seems to stick to history, they could add a custom battle mode where soviet forces would be allowed to fight allied forces or Western front German forces for example
 

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I'd love that ... but I'm afraid it would be too infantry-centric for most of the audience.


W2 brings enough vehicles' diversity so we don't have to rely on such "prototypes".
SD44's biggest unicorn, the Locust, was combat ready and in the division's arsenal for Normandy, and engaged in combat later in the war (Operation Varsity). None of this was the case for the T-44.
Besides, USSR would offer a pretty wide array of units, even if we just consider Bagration. The KVs alone comes in quite a number of configurations!

actually the T-44 was already deployed by 1944... only that it wasnt used in any division to keep it a secret.. and because they thought the T-34-85 was adequate while the T-44 wasnt needed... same could be said for the m22 locust

"The T-44 was issued to three tank brigades mustered on 15 September 1944 for training purposes, but these formations (6th Guards, 33rd Guards, and 63rd Guards Tank Brigades[19]) were re-equipped with T-34-85 tanks prior to entering the Battle of Berlin and Prague Offensive. The T-44A was not used operationally during World War II in Europe for several reasons, including the fact that the Red Army was not ready to accept a new tank[7] because of lack of sufficient spares[7] and technical specialists who could repair and maintain the new tanks[7] as well as the fact that many of the tank crews would have to be retrained.[7] However, three tanks were sent to the 100th Special Tank Company which tested them on the Eastern Front.[7] Many T-44As were immediately sent after they were produced in the Far East regions of the Soviet Union. The first tanks arrived there before the end of the war and were used operationally during the last three days of fighting. They continued to arrive after the war and eventually around 600 T-44As were stationed there.[20]"

simo hayha vs 500 conscripts..... that would be fun... plus a winter mechanic could be modeled... regardless id still love to play as the soviets and throw thousands of tons of shells at simo...
 
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IL2 vs JU87G, which would be more cancerous?

Read something about it in a French magazine "Guerre et Histoire". Apparently the German Stukas were outdated by the
il-2 which appeared in 1941 already. Germans never switched to another attacker and Il-2 was most produced aircraft of ww2 (36 163 units. 6500 Stukas by comparison). Would this make Ilyushin 2 "Sturmovik" cancer to Germans? :)
 

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Read something about it in a French magazine "Guerre et Histoire". Apparently the German Stukas were outdated by the
il-2 which appeared in 1941 already. Germans never switched to another attacker and Il-2 was most produced aircraft of ww2 (36 163 units. 6500 Stukas by comparison). Would this make Ilyushin 2 "Sturmovik" cancer to Germans? :)

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