But why? Even if you don't like it, that seems somewhat absurd to me.
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But why? Even if you don't like it, that seems somewhat absurd to me.
Exactly, hence moving to Steam will remove DRM entirely (CK2 for GG has more DRM than CK2 for Steam, since its ingame store uses DRM to check whether you have the DLCs). Read the full third note.
Steamworks do work!
So GG games require users to stay online to play if they have bought DLC's? Ouch!
Once steamworks is integrated in EU4, like you said the game will cut off from other digital distributors in terms of dlc and future expansions. As more developers, like paradox, produce Steam-only games I expect steam’s competitors to slowly go out of business due to lack of content. I assume paradox is ok with that.
DRM? Are you going to implement Steam’s authentication (DRM) into EU4?
If yes, then contrary to popular belief in this forum that “steam-only EU4” will be no different than steam-ed version of CK2, the game eventually will require an internet connection and steam’s software/client to initiate.
He was listening concerns, not new features. The problem is that they are forced to implement DRM in CK2 for GamersGate.
Thanks Johan, for taking the time out to respond. Its apparent that I really don't know what goes into supporting the two different versions. I guess I just have to hope the demand for a non-steam version is eventually sufficient to release one. . .even if it's a few years down the line.
Also, in this thread or some other Steam thread a Paradoxian already said that EU4 will be no different than steam-ed version of CK2 when copying the Folder, offline gaming, etc. You only need to go back 3 or 5 pages or so for the latest link to that post...
If Steam's competitors don't make their platforms as robust and with as many features for the developer and consumer, I can see why they would be going out of business. Additionally the network effect is in play, and since Steam was one of the first big digital distribution services and the first one to get it right, they're going to be attractive to developers right now. Paradox would probably be fine with this considering IIRC 95% of their sales come from Steam already.
Thank you for confirming, on behalf of paradox, my assumption.
By the same token, it would perfectly be ok if paradox decides to transform europa universalis into an MMO war game with stripped down features for easy accessability for more casual gamers and with pay to win dlc, cause it is where the “95%” of the market is if you know what I mean. You will see that it is the current trend and unavoidable future of pc gaming if you follow total war series, flawlessly "streamlined" Civilization V with shiny graphics and finally always online multiplayer Sim Town (sorry sim city) with an online-store integrated upon massive fan demand.
But thank god we still have developers like paradox who think out-of-the-box with long term plans and do not just blindly follow current trends and numbers and deliver the product that we deserve, right.
You'll still be able to buy the game from other retailers, you just need Steam to actually install it. You can even buy the game directly from Paradox.
Paradox are a company, if it's not a financially competent move (or just competent in general) to release the content elsewhere then why would they? You should stop being so naive and realise that Steam is a logical step in the right direction. Paradox will always be making grand strategy the way they have been doing for years and moving to Steam isn't going to change that.
Going off what we've seen I'd say its becoming more complex while remaining accessible to even more people.
Hell, why should they make a non-steam version that creates more work, increasing cost and reducing value to their customers?
1) Why am I being forced, for a game I physically am holding the disc for, to install a third party software in order to get it to work?
2) At the time, I had no internet connection.
Because the game uses the Steam backend for patching, multiplayer, and DLC? When there is a readily available platform for this that reaches millions of users, why would a developer spend time and money to create their own system parallel Steam's?
You insinuated that the poster was going to be a pirate and casually lumped everyone who was not going to buy the game due to Steam into the same boat.
Then you flippantly replied to me, mocking my supposed lack of reading skills.
Anyway, whatever. I'll stick to playing Victoria II, CK2, Pride of Nations and Alea Jacta Est and give EU4 a pass until they reconsider.
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Why are you using an OS then? That's a 3rd party program to make other programs work...
You insinuated that the poster was going to be a pirate and casually lumped everyone who was not going to buy the game due to Steam into the same boat.
Then you flippantly replied to me, mocking my supposed lack of reading skills.
Anyway, whatever. I'll stick to playing Victoria II, CK2, Pride of Nations and Alea Jacta Est and give EU4 a pass until they reconsider.
Well your reading skills do appear to be lacking, since the poster clearly said he was going to pirate the game and I included a line in my post saying "and no, obviously not every person who dislikes steam will turn pirate, but there have been several posts like KyeSteltek's recently." which I would say rather clearly states I am NOT lumping everyone who dislikes Steam into the same group and was only directing that post at people who stated they would pirate the game...
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