Steam only distribution and DRM on this game as well?

[kunadam]

I will not rest until the objective horribleness of Steam is universally recognized.

Minor conveniences aside, It is awkward, cumbersome, opaque and flawed on its basic level. Down with that nonsense.

Agreed!

 

[airpirate]

Never!

I will not rest until the objective horribleness of Steam is universally recognized.

Minor conveniences aside, It is awkward, cumbersome, opaque and flawed on its basic level. Down with that nonsense.

Funny, because I have no problem what so ever with Steam's service. I find it easy to use and a very nice way to keep all my games in one spot. It's the fact that they're nearing monopoly status that worries me. It's not enough to make me stop using steam, but I support non-steam versions of things based on principle.

 

[Ashantai]

Gamesgate versions were completely separate from Steam with CK2, and I don't expect anything different here.

 

[s1234567890m]

Gamesgate versions were completely separate from Steam with CK2, and I don't expect anything different here.

Good point.. For future games I expect this more likely to happen.



True, but if 95% of the customers are on Steam then well..

dun dun duunnn

Wasnt GG mentioned as 7% of market share recently?

 

[unmerged(475128)]

dun dun duunnn

Wasnt GG mentioned as 7% of market share recently?

Of course it has less users than Steam, so what?
For example I don't like Steam and I use GG only. If EU4 was Steam only, I wouldn't buy it.
As far as I know GG was (or still is) owned by Paradox, so for sure they'll never go Steam-only with any game.

 

[Me_]

Funny, because I have no problem what so ever with Steam's service. I find it easy to use and a very nice way to keep all my games in one spot. It's the fact that they're nearing monopoly status that worries me. It's not enough to make me stop using steam, but I support non-steam versions of things based on principle.

They're not "games" they're "subscriptions" and you do not own any of them Valve just provides you with access to them.

 

[flame7926]

They're not "games" they're "subscriptions" and you do not own any of them Valve just provides you with access to them.

And yet they are on your computer, and don't require it running to play, so even if they decided to rescind your "subscriptions" they would have no way of doing it.

 

[Me_]

And yet they are on your computer, and don't require it running to play, so even if they decided to rescind your "subscriptions" they would have no way of doing it.

Except that the next time you went online on Steam they would block them all.

 

[flame7926]

Except that the next time you went online on Steam they would block them all.

They couldn't because they don't know where the games are on your system and have no way of disabling them.

 

[s1234567890m]

And yet they are on your computer, and don't require it running to play, so even if they decided to rescind your "subscriptions" they would have no way of doing it.

He seems to be refering to the recent SSA update, people had forgotten that they didnt own there games and threw a hissy when they had to agree to the new SSA or stop using there games.

 

[unmerged(48546)]

Why does this question even come up?

No game from PDS has ever been steam-only. Are people so afraid of Steam that they see ghosts?

 

[Van Diemen]

I think it has already been said that the game will also be sold on Gamersgate, therefore I do not expect this game to be steam-only.

 

[Cuthuthulu]

Strategy Informer: We touched briefly on how the new engine has affected things, but a lot of other things have changed in the last seven years as well, non the least Paradox Connect... will EU4 be taking advantage of that? Has that opened up any new possibilities for you in terms of DLC or whatever?

Johan Andersson: It won’t be attached to Paradox Connect per say... if people still love DLC when EU4 is released, we'll do content the way CK2 does it: with steam packages or through GamersGate’s in-game store. Paradox Connect is kind of dead as far as I know...

While that's not a 100% guarantee. Sounds like there's a pretty good chance it won't be steam exclusive.

 

[Antiscamp]

I bet EU4 will be on GamersGate too. Don't worry. GamersGate is a Swedish operation too, and they seem to have a kind of special relationship with Paradox.

I'd pre-order right now, by the way.

 

[kal56]

I mean, between CK2 and now all their releases as a publisher have been steam only. Sure you can buy stuff on gamersgate, but it's just a serial key to enter into steam. And it sounded like making the separate CK2 version was a huge pain in the ass at the time, and from Johan's comments on that it sounded like it would be the only game released like that.

Is it really that hard to see where I am coming from with this question or are you all acting stupid just because?.

People are acting "stupid" because you're wrong. I bought the CK2 off Gamersgate, I don't have Steam and at no time was I forced to get Steam, I downloaded the entire game from Gamersgate.

 

[flame7926]

People are acting "stupid" because you're wrong. I bought the CK2 off Gamersgate, I don't have Steam and at no time was I forced to get Steam, I downloaded the entire game from Gamersgate.

Did you see he said publisher? And between CK2 and now? Everything Paradox Interactive(publisher) has released since CK2 has been Steam only, is what he said rephrased.

 

[kal56]

Did you see he said publisher? And between CK2 and now? Everything Paradox Interactive(publisher) has released since CK2 has been Steam only, is what he said rephrased.

Hmm I haven't bought any of the none Paradox developed titles since CK2, the DLC (Sword of Islam) is still free from any requirement for Steam. Not that I mind Steam too much but for some reason I prefer Gamersgate for Paradox games.

 

[flame7926]

Hmm I haven't bought any of the none Paradox developed titles since CK2, the DLC (Sword of Islam) is still free from any requirement for Steam. Not that I mind Steam too much but for some reason I prefer Gamersgate for Paradox games.

I'm pretty sure there haven't been any paradox developed titles since CK2, just Paradox published.

 

[unmerged(1823)]

I'm pretty sure there haven't been any paradox developed titles since CK2, just Paradox published.

ck2 was the latest game we made.

 

[Hearth]

ck2 was the latest game we made.

See?
GG is the best, CK2 was on GG, EU4 will be on GG. Breathe, relax. Enjoy.