Veld said I should post this here in a new thread so it could be discussed, so I shall.
Attached is the vanilla 1.07b version of saxon.txt with standardized spellings across all names. The only data changes are Ælfwine Haroldson (161260) being a legit_bastard rather than a bastard, Harold de Valois (40420) being of his own dynasty and Uhtred the Bold (188) and Æthelstan the Glorious (33350) having their nicknames added.
I will query two things about this file, but I have not changed either:
1. Harold Godwinson (122) should have more troops at Stamford Bridge. I know there is a balance argument here, but the Saxons decisively beat Hardråde and almost beat William. It should be a very close-run thing, and if you want a guaranteed Norman England then there's always the second 1066 scenario, which is what I assumed it existed for. In the Stamford Bridge scenario there should be a fair (though not guaranteed) chance of the Saxons winning, and that simply isn't the case right now. It's basically impossible unless you use exploits.
2. Tostig Godwinson (124) has an odd mixture of claims:
Personally I would suggest removing the counties. Giving him claims on the duchies of York and Northumberland is plenty, and that area would roughly have corresponded to his old earldom of Northumberland. Westmorland is a de jure part of Lancaster, for example.
Finally, this is the name list I use. I would recommend using it so as to avoid linking issues with the names in the file, or we'll be back to square one:
Eadweard is unlinked so as to avoid the old Edward III/VI issue. I dislike having both Eadward and Eadweard because it looks strange and means you can have a Saxon king named Eadweard I, despite previously having Eadward (III) the Confessor.
If you're happy to accept this arrangement then I will do the same for the three Scandinavian character files.
Attached is the vanilla 1.07b version of saxon.txt with standardized spellings across all names. The only data changes are Ælfwine Haroldson (161260) being a legit_bastard rather than a bastard, Harold de Valois (40420) being of his own dynasty and Uhtred the Bold (188) and Æthelstan the Glorious (33350) having their nicknames added.
Code:
1029049 = {
name="of Ewyas"
culture = saxon
}1. Harold Godwinson (122) should have more troops at Stamford Bridge. I know there is a balance argument here, but the Saxons decisively beat Hardråde and almost beat William. It should be a very close-run thing, and if you want a guaranteed Norman England then there's always the second 1066 scenario, which is what I assumed it existed for. In the Stamford Bridge scenario there should be a fair (though not guaranteed) chance of the Saxons winning, and that simply isn't the case right now. It's basically impossible unless you use exploits.
2. Tostig Godwinson (124) has an odd mixture of claims:
Code:
1066.1.1={
add_claim = c_york
add_claim = c_westmorland
add_claim = c_lincoln
add_claim = d_northumberland
add_claim = d_york
}Personally I would suggest removing the counties. Giving him claims on the duchies of York and Northumberland is plenty, and that area would roughly have corresponded to his old earldom of Northumberland. Westmorland is a de jure part of Lancaster, for example.
Finally, this is the name list I use. I would recommend using it so as to avoid linking issues with the names in the file, or we'll be back to square one:
Code:
saxon = {
graphical_culture = saxongfx
color = { 0.8 0.3 0.3 }
male_names = {
Aldred Aldwine Aldwulf Alfwold Baldred Beorn_Beorn Beornred Beornwulf_Beornwulf Burgred Cearl_Charles Ceolwulf Cerdic_Caradog
Coenred_Konrad Coenwulf Cospatric Cuthbert_Cuthbert Cynewulf Dolfin Eadbert Eadfrid Eadgar_Edgar Eadmund_Edmund Eadred
Eadric Eadulf_Adolf Eadwald Eadweard Eadwig_Eadwig Eadwine_Edwin Ealdred Ealmund Eanbert Eanfrith Eanhere Eardulf Earled
Ecgberht_Egbert Edwy_Eadwig Egbert_Egbert Egfrith Elfweard Elfwine_Alwin Eormenric Estmond Godric Godwine Gyrth Harold_Harold
Hereward Hereweald Hlothere_Lothair Hrodberht_Robert Ketil_Ketil Leofric Leofwine Leostan Magnus_Magnus
Maldred Morcar_Marcus Offa_Uffe Oshere Osred Osric Osulf_Osulf Oswald Oswine_Oswine Oswiu Oswulf_Osulf Petre_Peter
Rædwulf_Rudolf Sigebert Sigehelm Sigered Sigeric Sighere Siward_Sigurd Skúli_Skule Stigand Sveyn_Sven Swithelm Swithred
Swæfred Sæbert Sælred Sæwald Sæxbald Sæxred Thored_Thor Thorold_Thorold Thoræd_Thor Thurcytel_Torkel Tostig
Uhtred Ulf_Ulf Waltheof Wigelin Wiglaf Wihtred Wistan Wulf_Ulf Wulfhere Wulfnoth Wulfstan Ælaf_Olaf Ælfgar
Ælfred_Alfred Ælfwine_Alwin Ælle Æthelbald Æthelbert_Albert Æthelfrith Æthelhere Æthelmær_Adémar Æthelred Æthelric
Æthelstan Æthelweard Æthelwine_Alwin Æthelwold Æthelwulf_Adolf
}
female_names = {
Agatha_Agatha Cristina_Christina Eadflæd Eadgifu Eadgyth Eadhburh Eadhild Ealdgyth_Edith Ecgfrida
Ecgwynn Edhilda Edith_Edith Edithia_Edith Elfleda Elfrida Elfwynn Elgiva Godgifu Gunhilda_Gunhild Gytha_Gyda Helga_Helga Hextilda
Margaret_Margaret Maud_Matilda Octreda Sigrid_Sigrid Wulfthryth Ældgyth_Edith Ælfgifu Ælflæd Ælfthryth Ælfwyn
Æthelflæd Æthelhild Æthelreda_Æthelreda Æthelswyth Æthelthryth_Æthelreda
}
from_dynasty_prefix = "of "
male_patronym = "s sunu"
female_patronym = "s dohtor"
prefix = no
# Chance of male children being named after their paternal or maternal grandfather, or their father. Sum must not exceed 100.
pat_grf_name_chance = 30
mat_grf_name_chance = 10
father_name_chance = 25
# Chance of female children being named after their paternal or maternal grandmother, or their mother. Sum must not exceed 100.
pat_grm_name_chance = 20
mat_grm_name_chance = 40
mother_name_chance = 5
modifier = default_culture_modifier
}Eadweard is unlinked so as to avoid the old Edward III/VI issue. I dislike having both Eadward and Eadweard because it looks strange and means you can have a Saxon king named Eadweard I, despite previously having Eadward (III) the Confessor.
If you're happy to accept this arrangement then I will do the same for the three Scandinavian character files.
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