Stability and War Support

[Nostromo84]

How does one reduce enemy stability and war support?

I must have dropped like 30 nukes on the USA and war support never fell bellow 37% and stability was way higher

Does using nukes no longer push a country closer tu surrender?

I had to fight the USA all the way from New York to the rockies to force them to surrender.

 

[Aeternull]

Same thing happened to me while playing as Japan. I took India, Australia, New Zealand and every damn pacific Island so only UK, US, Canada ad South Africa left in their Faction. I invaded the US in the west coast and when I reached near the East cost, I dropped like 10 nukes on multiple cities. Their Stability and War Support was 30-60% but still I had to take every city to make them surrender. I feel like these things dont effect their surrender at all

 

[Tom D.]

I dropped several nukes on Great Britain and checked their war support and stability and it seems to me that it hasn't lowered at all. Previously you could nuke a nation to a minimum of 10% National Unity but with that being replaced it doesn't look like it reduces stability and war support, which really seems like an oversight. That's at least what I've experienced so far.

 

[Lykanion]

From my last game as Germany vs. USA:

• The percentage in the tooltip for nuclear bombing seems to be off - in a game against the US, the tooltip would say 16%, but war support actually would only fall for about 2 percentage points / percent (whatever is meant, war support was close to 100%)
• The US would recover the losses from nuclear bombing quickly (mainly war support gain from bomber interception, I think)
• I never saw any effect of a changing war support percentage on the surrender limit

Does anyone know if and in what way war supports influences the surrender limit? Did anyone manage to lower the surrender limit with nuclear bombing?

 

[Zwirbaum]

From my last game as Germany vs. USA:

• The percentage in the tooltip for nuclear bombing seems to be off - in a game against the US, the tooltip would say 16%, but war support actually would only fall for about 2 percentage points / percent (whatever is meant, war support was close to 100%)
• The US would recover the losses from nuclear bombing quickly (mainly war support gain from bomber interception, I think)
• I never saw any effect of a changing war support percentage on the surrender limit

Does anyone know if and in what way war supports influences the surrender limit? Did anyone manage to lower the surrender limit with nuclear bombing?

There is no war support or stability effect on surrender limit.

 

[Karaya 1]

Surrender Limit seems to be 20% flat with no change depending on conditions.

 

[noobermenschen]

Although the benefits of War Support max out at 100, the actual score can be buffed up higher so a hit to War Support might not take you below 100. You get a ton of "War Propaganda against X" decision options and if AI nation had a lot of Political Power late game (I am assuming 30 nukes is well after 1945) they might have been jacking up their War Support through the ceiling.

 

[Forster]

I don't know, but I would think 30 nukes would cause a pretty drastic drop in morale and war support.

 

[Ironside121]

@podcat pls fix

And if it's intentional and not actually broken...

pls fix

 

[Karaya 1]

Nukes are ridiculous anyway. You just instantly wipe out most infra in a state plus everything in that particular province. I once had a game where the US managed to get air Sup. over my russian lands with like 3k Strat bombers. You simply can not put enough fighters into all those different states to counter that. They can switch daily to another zone. Its ridiculous.

Oh you dont have full air sup over one of the fronts ? Let me wipe out your armies and lvl 10 forts with a couple nukes. I once lost around 5k tanks and 15k mechanized to a few nukes on my massed breakthrough armies (was trying to cut something off). Couple nukes made both armies lose around 80% strenght.