Spymasters keep getting killed by random courtiers, bug?

[in heaven]

So my spymasters keep getting executed by random landless courtiers, here is proof:
link to IMGUR

Is this bug? I don't think courtiers should be able to execute spymasters..

 

[DPS]

Executed, or murdered? They certainly shouldn't be executed by random courtiers, but why shouldn't they be victims of murder?

 

[ragnarok246]

Tanaz is a lunatic, and she accounts for 2 of the 3 murders you used as "evidence". Rivalries will often lead to murder plots. Your half-brother murdering your spymaster might be a precursor to him trying to murder you.

That said, you should be getting righteous imprisonment on the murderers because they're in your realm or court and committing acts of treason. I'd call it a bug if you're not getting righteous imprisonment on them.

 

[TankRush]

I've noticed in the past that when ordering someone's death through and event or plot, the character giving the order won't always be tagged as the murderer. And always regarded it as the person tagged as being the one who did the dirty work (and think they often were actually involved in the murder/execution in most cases).

It's been a while since I've played and I haven't been doing much plotting this latest game.

 

[Rath12]

They are being murdered. Not executed.

 

[TankRush]

Yes but when you get the event that "So-and-so is running around your realm, fabricating a claim", or generally being trouble, the event where you deal with them doesn't count as execution either.

 

[thevmag]

Had a lot of high-intrigue spymasters get slaughtered within a month or two, so it definitely is a thing. Even just sitting at home and watching for plots was highly fatal for them - especially if they were just sitting at home and watching for plots. Improving plot power to take down a king? Getting murdered by said king is understandable. Sitting at home, everyone from my wife to the Mayor of Nowhere wants a turn at stabbing this week's 20+ master spy.

And yep, can confirm: no lawful imprisonment for anyone. That's two anecdotes, which convert to two data points, or 100% confirmation.

 

[Rationalsanity]

If you aren't getting righteous imprisonment on these characters, its either a bug or a gameplay oversight.

 

[in heaven]

Yes, they were murdered not executed. Im not getting righteous imprisonment so it should be a bug.

But is it bad luck that the only people who die are spymasters?

 

[Rath12]

I think they might want to install a guy who hates you, for easy plot power?

The guy frabing a claim is being murdered by assassins, not imprisioned.

 

[Parzival2211]

Have you reported this as a bug in the bug report sub-forum?

 

[Achab]

Spymasters performing the "Scheme" job are target of murder attempts by plotters afraid of their plot being discovered. That is done through an event.

 

[Arona]

Is killer in your court? If she/he is outside your court you dont get righteous imprisonment. its normal mechanic someone in other court start a plot, invites characters on your court to kill you.

If character is not your direct vassal or on your court you will not have righteous imprisonment.

 

[Rationalsanity]

Is killer in your court? If she/he is outside your court you dont get righteous imprisonment. its normal mechanic someone in other court start a plot, invites characters on your court to kill you.

If character is not your direct vassal or on your court you will not have righteous imprisonment.

Which is completely stupid, if a character within your realm gets caught committing murder you should have the right to imprison them at least. If you are a vassal you should be able to petition your liege for justice in cases like this.


Law & Order DLC anyone?

 

[Griff Lancer]

Do spymasters that can't even discover a plot on their own life really deserve to live?