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Fernando Torres said:
No you can't either, you'd kill the Hitler chief ot staff but the HoG will stay in cabinet.
Wrong. If you kill one version of a minister, you kill them all. I haven't tested to determine how the game checks to see if a minister has different IDs but it might be based on...Name (identical match for country) or Picture name (again, same picture.)
I do know that if you kill Stalin when he is acting in his post as Chief of Army or Minister of Armament, then all 4 versions of him die.
If you kill Hitler as Chief 0f Army, then all 3 versions of him die.
If you kill Benito Mussolini in one of his alternate versions (he has 6 total) then all* versions die.

This is true whether you kill him through espionage or sleep him via event.

*This is the one I'm not sure about. His Foreign Minister position uses a different picture, so I'm not 100% sure that this one will kill the other five.
 

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Really sure about that one, xtfoster? I've always been under the impression that one minister post = one ID and thus, when killing 1234, he's gone, but if it's a duplicate in the ministerfile (i.e. he also is CoA with another ID), he ain't killed.

I remeber when killing off Himmler... I still met him on the battlefield when stopping 'the nazis' in the motherland.
 

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TeutonburgerW said:
Really sure about that one, xtfoster? I've always been under the impression that one minister post = one ID and thus, when killing 1234, he's gone, but if it's a duplicate in the ministerfile (i.e. he also is CoA with another ID), he ain't killed.

I remeber when killing off Himmler... I still met him on the battlefield when stopping 'the nazis' in the motherland.
I am 100% sure about Stalin and Hitler. And I know there is a bug in the Romanian event chain caused by this change (which was added with the Espionage rules in Doomsday) when 1 version of Victor Antonescu (the Social Conservative version) is slept in the event, all the other versions become unavailable at the same time.

EDIT: After reading your post more closely...it doesn't kill off the leaders...just the ministers.
 

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xtfoster said:
I am 100% sure about Stalin and Hitler. And I know there is a bug in the Romanian event chain caused by this change (which was added with the Espionage rules in Doomsday) when 1 version of Victor Antonescu (the Social Conservative version) is slept in the event, all the other versions become unavailable at the same time.

EDIT: After reading your post more closely...it doesn't kill off the leaders...just the ministers.

Another lesson learned then, thanks.
 

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Recently, i got the event where you can choose to "drop dead" a minister with different views.

I was playing as Germany and the minister in question was ... Adolf Hitler :wacko:

Just for the fun of it, i chose "drop dead" and guess what....

Goering is now the ruler of Germany ! :D
 

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DesertSnow said:
Recently, i got the event where you can choose to "drop dead" a minister with different views.

I was playing as Germany and the minister in question was ... Adolf Hitler :wacko:

Just for the fun of it, i chose "drop dead" and guess what....

Goering is now the ruler of Germany ! :D
Yah, that one's fun, but doesn't really affect your game much as Germany.

The real fun one is when the USSR tells Stalin (-5% IC) to drop dead and you get Vyacheslav Molotov (+5% IC) to replace him. The added bonus is that if it happens before the purge events, the Purge will never happen.
 

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TeutonburgerW said:
Really sure about that one, xtfoster? I've always been under the impression that one minister post = one ID and thus, when killing 1234, he's gone, but if it's a duplicate in the ministerfile (i.e. he also is CoA with another ID), he ain't killed.

I remeber when killing off Himmler... I still met him on the battlefield when stopping 'the nazis' in the motherland.


I will say he is, since I have knocked off Stalin when he was army chief and he was no longer there for the Russians to use at all.

Same for Mussolini. Once you kill them they are gone.

Now what would be nice is if the game would take the assassinations into account and cause disruption and other issues with in the country that has it happen to them...