Spring Cleaning at the court

[OrdepNM]

So my king recently died. Great man he was. You kinda have to be a great name in order to keep your kingdom togheter and even expand it considerably despite spending over 20 years possessed (at some point it went into voice of jesus territory) and living till 65 despite being maimed at age 30 (which eventually killed him.. 35 years later)

But life goes on and theres a new king in town, probem is, he moved to the capital will aloot of luggage... 63 courtiers in total, mostly made out of old ladies and children which is way above the limit where fertility penalties start hitting you court, and since my style of play mostly revolves around marrying my daughters to the heir of failing lords and inviting them to my court so I can press their claim, you can see how this is an unpleasant turn of events. As such I was wondering if anyone knows any ways I can get all this people off my lawn. Assassinating this many people is not an option Im afraid, theyre way too many for me to not get some major penalties over it.

 

[Bj0rn]

matrillinially marry the men abroad, and marry normally the woman abroad as well For the younglings I'm afraid you'd have to wait a bit, though. For the old women, bah, there is always a perv for old ladies out there somewhere.

 

[OrdepNM]

There were... 2 men in the whole batch, Im dead serious, the 40-ish women I was able to marry to randoms here and there, but when youre moving to the long list of 60-ish old women the only people who are gonna marry them are my kids and thats just not gonna happen.

Seriously, I know starting a new king can be a pain in the ass, but usually for completely different reasons

 

[Bj0rn]

Tense... :S

 

[redhawk12]

there needs to be a get ride of button

 

[unmerged(88697)]

Ya, I noticed since 1.07 that the court can quickly grow out of proportion.

Send courtiers to other courts. Call-up your character's diplomacy screen and select "arrange marrage." Up pops a list of unmarried characters. Now click on one of their portraits and click on their portrait a second time to go to the character's main attribute screen. From here click on the double gold rings to arrange a marrage for them. If a women select a suitable mate of your culture, if a man select the maternal checkbox and find a suitable mate of your culture.

Give out counties and/or baronies/cities/temples. After conquering a sizable territory check your court and look for married men to grant titles to. This usually get rid of two courtiers and more if they have children.

Clear out your prisons. No reason to keep people in your dungeon unless your' RP'ing.

Plotting. It helps to have some courtiers with high intrigue to assist in plots. I generally educate girls (of my family and my court) with suitable traits to become elusive shadows. Two or three of these in your court and plots are no trouble at all.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

You can also get the kids educated by one of your vassals, even baron level vassals. They won't be counted as being in your court anymore.

63 is a lot of baggage. Ouch.

 

[Lorehead]

If you’re willing to cheat, you can kill them with the console, role-playing that you’re retiring them from the court and they will no longer be appearing in the game. Maybe give them gifts first, or subtract some gold to role-play pensioning them off. Alternatively, if they’re medieval sexagenarians, they won’t live that much longer, will they?

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

How do you kill them ? I don't recall a kill cheat like in CK1. Probably alike that one though ?

 

[Lorehead]

Hit the backquote (`) key to bring up the console, charinfo 1 to see character IDs when you mouseover, then kill character-ID to kill someone without risk.

Alternatively, you might load up as some landless vassal, such as the captain of the Varangian Guard, cheat him some money, and have him do the assassinations. Then save and load back as your main character. A little less tedious, and shouldn’t significantly affect the game.

 

[Aardvark Bellay]

Hit the backquote (`) key to bring up the console, charinfo 1 to see character IDs when you mouseover, then kill character-ID to kill someone without risk.

Alternatively, you might load up as some landless vassal, such as the captain of the Varangian Guard, cheat him some money, and have him do the assassinations. Then save and load back as your main character. A little less tedious, and shouldn’t significantly affect the game.

Oh right, forgot that. Simple actually, Thanks.



Just in case i get scenario like the OP mentioned.

 

[OrdepNM]

You can also get the kids educated by one of your vassals, even baron level vassals. They won't be counted as being in your court anymore.

63 is a lot of baggage. Ouch.

Thats actually something I havent thought off, send all my courtier's kids somewhere else till theyre 16 and when they come back if their stats are no good or I got no use for them I just marry them away. Thanks, will start doing that.

As for the number, I think I know what happened. there was some shennenigans going on in burgundry which is right next to my (now) king's holdings, so I think the several displaced lords all went to his court and filled it, got more kids and got older. I remember I once had an amazing chancellor that went and got me claims on most of Leon+Castille and when I pressed all claims and got the titles, I noticed the king of navarra was dealing with 80+ courtiers... Poor bastard

If you’re willing to cheat, you can kill them with the console, role-playing that you’re retiring them from the court and they will no longer be appearing in the game. Maybe give them gifts first, or subtract some gold to role-play pensioning them off. Alternatively, if they’re medieval sexagenarians, they won’t live that much longer, will they?

Oh boy, when you want them to die, they never die. The queen mother always hangs around for an eternity for some reason. But yeah, on this case Im not averse to cheating, its not like Im giving myself an advantage or something, there so needs to be a simple retire button..I was trying to get my act in order and lauch an holy war to conquer some piece of land So I could invite a few joe shmoe's and give them mayor and bishop titles after marying them to e old ladies, but I guess the console in this situation is even better in RP terms.

Thanks for the help everyone

 

[Lorehead]

Oh, and one other idea: load up as a different ruler, then invite/offer marriages to them. Save, reload as your main char.

 

[OrdepNM]

Thanks again, I was half expecting that most responses would be to marry people off, spam the assassinate button and hope for the best, but these are some good tips, bought for this situation and the future

 

[gornard]

There shouldn't be a penalty for banishing landless individuals in your court. Well maybe just relations in the case of the courtier and their family and a negative modifier to inviting people in.